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Old 11-05-2019, 08:24 AM   #401
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He's the big fat Kardashian president that our fucked up nation deserves.

But not the one it needs right now. So we’ll hunt him.
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Old 11-05-2019, 11:45 AM   #402
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Let's think about just how fucked up we are right now.

Please allow us to first go back to a simpler time. The year is 1994. The Houston Rockets are playing the New York Knicks in the NBA Finals, because Michael Jordan was banned from the NBA for a year for gambl... err... decided to try baseball.

As the anticipation for Game 5 of the Finals is growing, a news story starts to unfold. A middle aged entertainment lawyer reads the alleged suicide note of a beloved football player/Hollywood star turned double murder suspect. The former football player apparently held a gun to his head earlier that day in the bedroom of the lawyer's daughter, as Ross Geller would later reveal to us years later.

Meanwhile, uptown from the arena where the game will be played that night, a middle aged former real estate developer has bankrupted his casino business and is nothing more than a socialite desperate to hang on. And apparently hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein and raping a 13 year old.

Fast forward 25 years - the daughter whose room OJ almost blew his brains out is famous for... ? ... being the daughter of a friend of a double murder and blowing Ray J. The socialite is president, and the only major piece of bipartisan legislation to pass over his desk was signed because the entertainment lawyer's daughter happened to marry a bipolar rapper who wants to make america great again.

And this is why we're here.
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i love a good Kardashian origin story
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The year is 1994.
in my trunk is raw

in my rearview mirror is the motherfuckin law

i got two choices y'all, pull over the car or

bounce on the devil, put the pedal to the floor

amen.
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wait, you mean THAT quid pro quo. right

yeah. he totally did that. thank you for refreshing my recollection.
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The GOP are going to pivot to “crime isn’t a crime”

That’ll be their defense.

Or i suppose just blatantly refuse to see, hear, or speak of any facts that have come out.

It’s all a conspiracy against Trump
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The GOP are going to pivot to “crime isn’t a crime”

That’ll be their defense.

Or i suppose just blatantly refuse to see, hear, or speak of any facts that have come out.

It’s all a conspiracy against Trump


Also, Rand Paul is dead to me.
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Agreed, sorry about using the Daily Mail, just the one that I chose out of multiple links. I have two daughters, and these scum, whoever they are, from either side of the aisle should go down with Epstein
Amy Robach Walks Back Leaked Video Claiming ABC 'Quashed' Jeffrey Epstein Story: 'I Was Upset'

https://people.com/tv/amy-robach-wal...epstein-video/
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US Politics XVII: Yes, squid pro row

Can we say it?

Good job, Democrats?

What’s the secret sauce? Could it be this, from the NYT:

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Mr. Beshear, a 41-year-old moderate whose father preceded Mr. Bevin in the governor’s mansion, sidestepped questions about Mr. Trump and impeachment while keeping his distance from national Democrats. He focused squarely on Mr. Bevin’s efforts to cut health care and overhaul the state’s pension program while drawing attention to the governor’s string of incendiary remarks, including one that suggested striking teachers had left children vulnerable to molestation.
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That was the theme of the 2018 mid terms

Moderates are the ones who flipped seats across the Midwest and South.

Trump campaign is already slandering the new Governor as a Republican in disguise and not a real Democrat (despite slandering him as a socialist in their adverts)

I’m a bit torn on the 2020 stage because i would like Warren, but if she cannot win those five to six battleground states where Biden can.....then it needs to be Biden.

The goal has to be get rid of Trump.
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https://twitter.com/politicoalex/sta...610203136?s=21

Things to come in a year ??
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We need to realize that “the base” in the Trump years are suburban voters. And suburban voters generally like their health care.
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That was the theme of the 2018 mid terms

Moderates are the ones who flipped seats across the Midwest and South.

Trump campaign is already slandering the new Governor as a Republican in disguise and not a real Democrat (despite slandering him as a socialist in their adverts)

I’m a bit torn on the 2020 stage because i would like Warren, but if she cannot win those five to six battleground states where Biden can.....then it needs to be Biden.

The goal has to be get rid of Trump.


I agree. Under normal circumstances I’d probably lean towards Warren our Bernie but for me, the #1 goal is to remove the orange traitor.
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Kamala Harris just released a breathtakingly stupid proposal to increase the length of the school day in order to reduce productivity losses for parents at work. Just reading it has me looking for the nearest window to toss my computer out of.
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Kamala Harris just released a breathtakingly stupid proposal to increase the length of the school day in order to reduce productivity losses for parents at work. Just reading it has me looking for the nearest window to toss my computer out of.


As a parent, I’m actually intrigued but haven’t been able to check it out yet.
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We need to realize that “the base” in the Trump years are suburban voters. And suburban voters generally like their health care.
Also need to point out that Bevin lost in large part because of.... You guessed it, that suburban areas where KY borders Cincinnati OH. Used to be fairly reliably Red, but two counties went blue and one other was light pink.

I know that after the initial feeling of we have to vote for the person that can beat Trump (when the primary season first started) It sort of shifted to, we really need to vote someone who will energize the left base and vote for BIG change!
Now, I feel like its swinging back a bit again. People are seeing that 2020 win isn't in the bag, and in fact, could be way to close for comfort.

We just can't have Trump have 4 more years. End of story, period, bottom line, no arguments can justify it.
So I will keep my attention on how things progress. But as of now, if Warren is going to continue with the M4A direction she is going now, i'm not sure I can comfortably support her. Obviously if she is the nominee yes, i will donate, knock on doors, call bank, etc...

But I think she is misreading the times here. The times are desperate. And the voters want calm, reliable, normalcy again.
People obviously see Biden this way. I think Pete is getting better numbers because he is offering that as well.
So Im not sure what Warren does here to stay on the trajectory that she was. Maybe it means her giving a plan of expanding Obamacare first, and then going to work on a single payer plan after. I don't know. I just know that if she keeps hammering at this, i think she will stall out.
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Kamala Harris just released a breathtakingly stupid proposal to increase the length of the school day in order to reduce productivity losses for parents at work. Just reading it has me looking for the nearest window to toss my computer out of.
I take it you don't have kids.
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As a parent, I’m actually intrigued but haven’t been able to check it out yet.
A thousand percent.

I haven't found the actual bill but just read a few articles on the proposal. It's not actually extending the school day, rather looking to establish a sort of "aftercare for all" program - which is an unbelievably good idea, and one that will resonate with every single household where both parents work.

The only shame of it is that it's coming from a candidate who doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning.
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I take it you don't have kids.A thousand percent.

I haven't found the actual bill but just read a few articles on the proposal. It's not actually extending the school day, rather looking to establish a sort of "aftercare for all" program - which is an unbelievably good idea, and one that will resonate with every single household where both parents work.

The only shame of it is that it's coming from a candidate who doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning.


Omg yes please! Right now I have my daughter in a before school YMCA program for $200 per month while posting for my son’s daycare as well. Any kind of support in this area would be huge.
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according to this poll, bevin was winning by almost 16 points as recently as last weekend, before trump made an appearance at bevin's rally on monday. make of that what you will.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1v7F...cENE93KyY/view

also for all you who are freaking out about suburban voters and swing states, delaware county PA just went democrat for the first time since the civil war, and it was damn near a clean sweep. make of that what you will.

https://twitter.com/TajPHL/status/1191933590256394240
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