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Old 09-23-2019, 05:08 AM   #81
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It doesn't get much clearer than what?

Clear that she's lying about White Nationalist terrorism?



Lets look at the numbers:



Extremist-related murders spiked 35 percent from 2017 to 2018, "making them responsible for more deaths than in any year since 1995," (The Oklahoma City Bombing) Last year, every one of those extremist-related murders was carried out by a right-wing extremist.



Meanwhile, white supremacist propaganda distribution nearly tripled from 2017 to 2018, according to the ADL, which also documented a rise in racist rallies and demonstrations.



According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, 2018 was also the fourth straight year of hate group growth, culminating in a 30 percent increase overall, "roughly coinciding" with President Donald Trump’s campaign and presidency.



Last year’s murders at the hands of right-wing extremists reflect an ongoing trend. Center on Extremism, which has aggregated data going back to 1970, shows that over the last decade, a total of 73.3 percent of all extremist-related fatalities can be linked to domestic right-wing extremists, while 23.4 percent can be attributed to Islamic extremists. The remaining 3.2 percent were carried out by extremists who did not fall into either category.





But Candice knows this is NOT a problem. The REAL problem are those pesky Democrats who always seem to bring race up every four years. humph.



I mean, how could anyone bring race up when you have a man who is clearly NOT a raging racist, white nationalist supporting, bigot that ran for president and then get elected. I mean, bringing race up would be really despicable! Those shifty Democrats.

Lord Trump NEVER brings up race. Never besmirches those that are different.



When he lead a movement to prove the first black president was really not from the US, and was Muslim.

When he talks about people from Central and South America as animals, and infesting our country,

when he talks about having to stop invasions from murderers and rapists and drug dealers.



Or when he says he would gladly take immigrants from Norway or Sweden, but not these other countries that just have people with a really good tan.



Or when he calls African countries shit holes,



or when he trashes the people of Puerto Rico.



Or when he tells hispanic, black and middle eastern Congresswomen to go back where they came from.



When he says Baltimore is rat infested mess.



When he tried to ban all Muslim people from entering the country.



When he said there were very fine people at a Neo Nazi rally.



When he said that 15,000 Haitian refugees "all had AIDS".



When he said “Our inner cities, African Americans, Hispanics are living in hell because it’s so dangerous. You walk down the street, you get shot.”



Well, his words are just being twisted by the FAKE NEWS media. the enemy of the people. Especially when they show video of him making those statements. THAT'S where the real trickery is!

Because we all know that Trump is the least racist person we have ever known and that White Nationalist terrorism is not even in the top 100 things to worry about.
Right but you're forgetting that Candace Owens is black and thus speaks for all persons of color, as per the bible.
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I'm trying to figure out the logic of shutting down 395 and Independence Avenue to "#ShutDownDC" while all the people who work at Congress slide in to the parking lots on D Street like they do every day.

Seems as logical as "occupying" Wall Street by sitting in a park as everyone went about their business around them.

I'm all for protest, and believe we don't see enough of it with this current administration - but the people who plan these things clearly have never spent any meaningful time in DC. You're doing it all wrong, broski's
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All liberals are white, while conservatives feature great racial diversity.

Wait what
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All liberals are white, while conservatives feature great racial diversity.

Wait what
I thought that conservatives have magically evolved such that they don't see colour anymore?
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Can't agree with that ("the president is just about the most useless seat") wf. The proof is in the pudding, as they say; Trump's tone and certain declaratives unearthed the raging rascists- with horrific results.
The President sets the tone, the tenor (in general) of the country's direction, hopes, goals, etc. And the saying "The President proposes,and Congress disposes".
What i mean is that obviously the Presidential election is sort of the SuperBowl of elections. But when it comes to actual laws being passed, progress being made, life altering decisions being set by lower courts up to the Supreme Court - Senate is FAR more important! Not least being able to actually fill open court seats once the presidency is back in Dem control.
Without it, nothing will happen. You can let Warren and Sanders and Biden and whomever else spout out every plan and proposal, and none of it will happen without the Senate.
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got it.
We need BOTH. And keep The House!
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Think i gotta find my 1-800 free phone calls to Congress.

It's time, Ms Speaker Pelosi. "
Absolutely. I just have started feeling sick to my stomach now. I was hanging in for the most part with Pelosi. But not now.

Her angle was, if we can't go through the full process and actually get him impeached and convicted by the senate, then we'll just keep investigating and the more we unearth, the more people will have negative feelings on Trump and bam, we win in 2020. Sure. I can buy that.

But now - Not doing anything might be the thing that actually costs the election in 2020. It's looking less likely that Biden will be the nominee. But if he is, letting Trump go with no consequences, has now just showed him that he can do ANYTHING. He could send millions of dollars to foreign countries, if they strike a deal where they will jump in and try to hijack the election in his favor, and no one will do anything about it. He seriously could pay senators bribes not to vote to impeach him and no one would do anything about it. Just sit back and say, "that's very concerning. He is breaking all the norms!" blah fucking blah.

And it may be a replay of 2016, where instead of emails, its a made up story about Biden/Biden's son that causes Biden's favoribility to plummet and depress turn out and Bingo! He scrapes up a few random states by tens of thousands of votes and we have 4 more years of this destruction.

I've never called my congressman, but i will. Even though sadly I am in a red state.

Pelosi needs to see her initial play is turning on her, and she needs to play hardball - now.
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If she had no intention of ever impeaching him, would she be acting different than she has to this point in time ?

This is the week it has to happen. If not, Dems have to remove her or accept that Trump will win
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This Greta Thurburg girl is a real hoot. Love the message and all, but couldn’t possibly think of a worse way to sell it. “I’ll never forgive you! You stole my childhood from me! I shouldn’t be here I should be in school!”
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if you feel like you can do a better job than her at being a global climate activist who's taken seriously enough to be making speeches to the UN, then please go right ahead.
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Did I say I could do better? She’s dangering on having everything she’s done so far backfire on her if she turns into a meme. And she’s heading that way.
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yes, because the tactic of politely asking world leaders if they could maybe please start to think about looking into doing something so that entire generations of humanity don't suffer has been working so well to this point.
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Ok have you actually watched her material from today?
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of course i did. she was dramatic and passionate, but it was clearly genuine, and now people are talking about her speech tonight just like we are. if she went up there and gave some measured polite speech full of stats about carbon emissions or something everyone would have forgotten about it within an hour. we've been hearing that broken record now since before al gore got super cereal.

i think she's friggin' awesome and i hope she does indeed become a meme that spawns a million more pissed off greta thunbergs. lord knows we need something new (that isn't a natural disaster of record scale) to really get people's attention.

also keep in mind that you're criticizing a 15 year old autistic girl for acting a bit too passionate when she's giving a speech to the UN general assembly and an audience of millions worldwide.
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🤷🏻*♂️ if you say so. I found that to be incredibly manufactured and pouty and I think it was a far cry from convincing. I just imagined a bunch of UN leaders sitting with their palms on their cheeks wondering why this little girl was yelling at them.

Just because she’s right and she’s passionate doesn’t mean it’s effective.
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Can't keep cutting these kids down for trying.
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🤷🏻*♂️ if you say so. I found that to be incredibly manufactured and pouty and I think it was a far cry from convincing. I just imagined a bunch of UN leaders sitting with their palms on their cheeks wondering why this little girl was yelling at them.

Just because she’s right and she’s passionate doesn’t mean it’s effective.
Something to remember is that she isn't really there to speak to the old as fuck rich, powerful guys in the room.
She went from walking out on her own last year to a 4 million person walk out this year.
I was thrilled when i hit 1000 twitter followers.

Her real audience is the tens of millions of young people that will be old enough to vote this coming election or the next, and this issue and gun violence is going to be a game changer over the next decade. And just as every other social wedge issue, Republicans will be on the losing end. She is inspiring regular people. Not politicians. They will only see that when they lose their jobs in the coming years.
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If she had no intention of ever impeaching him, would she be acting different than she has to this point in time ?

This is the week it has to happen. If not, Dems have to remove her or accept that Trump will win
Fuck yes.

I think the biggest mistake being made is the timing. If these idiots would just jump to impeachment when the issue breaks, then they would have much more standing.

After Mueller report - do it
after Mueller testimony - do it!
2 weeks ago when the stories broke about the hundreds of hotel stays and millions spent at Trump hotels - Do it immediately!!
Now the whistle blower - Do it this fucking week. People get this. It's simple. Its not a 500 page report with double negatives of why Trump couldn't be criminally charged. Its as straight forward as it gets.

But this is what most likely will happen.
Pelosi folds once again. Dem electorate becomes annoyed and doubtful of the party and enthusiasm sinks.
Biden story does just enough damage to his numbers that he loses Iowa and NH, and performs worse than expected in SC. Downhill slide from there. Trumps most feared opponent gone, without any foreign assistance yet.

Then eastern european countries wanting to ensure their financial aid from Trump, jump into election interference, along with Saudis, Russians, etc... Whoever does win over Biden will be torn down to shreds by trolls that will make 2016 look like a day at the spa.

Trump will openly and secretly request foreign interference as the Dems stand by and say, oh there he goes again!! That rascal, is so unconventional and his ethics are just in the toilet. But there is SO much more that brings us together than divides us.

mark my words...
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Something to remember is that she isn't really there to speak to the old as fuck rich, powerful guys in the room.

She went from walking out on her own last year to a 4 million person walk out this year.

I was thrilled when i hit 1000 twitter followers.



Her real audience is the tens of millions of young people that will be old enough to vote this coming election or the next, and this issue and gun violence is going to be a game changer over the next decade. And just as every other social wedge issue, Republicans will be on the losing end. She is inspiring regular people. Not politicians. They will only see that when they lose their jobs in the coming years.


I suppose so regarding the audience she’s speaking to. I’m just fearful of the message being lost because of the way she’s going to be portrayed by the opposition.
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of course i did. she was dramatic and passionate, but it was clearly genuine, and now people are talking about her speech tonight just like we are. if she went up there and gave some measured polite speech full of stats about carbon emissions or something everyone would have forgotten about it within an hour. we've been hearing that broken record now since before al gore got super cereal.

i think she's friggin' awesome and i hope she does indeed become a meme that spawns a million more pissed off greta thunbergs. lord knows we need something new (that isn't a natural disaster of record scale) to really get people's attention.

also keep in mind that you're criticizing a 15 year old autistic girl for acting a bit too passionate when she's giving a speech to the UN general assembly and an audience of millions worldwide.

And important not to omit the fact that English is her second language, which makes what she's doing all the more impressive. Her speeches in English aren't going to be as natural and as fluid as they would be in her native tongue.
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