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Old 09-20-2019, 11:38 PM   #61
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dB has done some progressive stuff, but other things no, not sure he's up to the caliber i'd want in a President.



Wow had not heard about this WPF stuff! I something vote on their line vs Democrats. Beyond disgusting!

Oh, woah, these over rabid bernie bros going at you wf.
They don't go after me now, i chose not to engage anymore. it's like talking to a Trumpelton. No amount of reason, or clear statement of fact will sway either group. I dropped off Twitter and Facebook because it was just too depressing.
It just is infuriating to see that these people are still at it. Saw an IG post the other day by the Democratic Party page asking who they are most excited about. Pretty much a "If Biden is nominated, I won't vote" bonanza.

The Dem electorate in general needs to pull their heads out of their asses and realize that the president is just about the most useless seat to fill. Sure you need the presidency, but the Senate and with it, Supreme Court seats, and Federal Judicial seats are where the real change is made.

Claiming some moral or political superiority, shouting into the wind, with nothing to show for it, while everything crumbles down around you, is just pathetic.
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Old 09-21-2019, 12:28 AM   #63
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It doesn’t get much clearer than this, sorry that it’s from Facebook, but the clip is actually from C-Span and completely unaltered from the Congressional hearing. I hope that satisfies anyone’s annoyance with the source and the actual issues can be discussed

https://www.facebook.com/conserveour...7980814411084/
It doesn't get much clearer than what?
Clear that she's lying about White Nationalist terrorism?

Lets look at the numbers:

Extremist-related murders spiked 35 percent from 2017 to 2018, "making them responsible for more deaths than in any year since 1995," (The Oklahoma City Bombing) Last year, every one of those extremist-related murders was carried out by a right-wing extremist.

Meanwhile, white supremacist propaganda distribution nearly tripled from 2017 to 2018, according to the ADL, which also documented a rise in racist rallies and demonstrations.

According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, 2018 was also the fourth straight year of hate group growth, culminating in a 30 percent increase overall, "roughly coinciding" with President Donald Trump’s campaign and presidency.

Last year’s murders at the hands of right-wing extremists reflect an ongoing trend. Center on Extremism, which has aggregated data going back to 1970, shows that over the last decade, a total of 73.3 percent of all extremist-related fatalities can be linked to domestic right-wing extremists, while 23.4 percent can be attributed to Islamic extremists. The remaining 3.2 percent were carried out by extremists who did not fall into either category.


But Candice knows this is NOT a problem. The REAL problem are those pesky Democrats who always seem to bring race up every four years. humph.

I mean, how could anyone bring race up when you have a man who is clearly NOT a raging racist, white nationalist supporting, bigot that ran for president and then get elected. I mean, bringing race up would be really despicable! Those shifty Democrats.
Lord Trump NEVER brings up race. Never besmirches those that are different.

When he lead a movement to prove the first black president was really not from the US, and was Muslim.
When he talks about people from Central and South America as animals, and infesting our country,
when he talks about having to stop invasions from murderers and rapists and drug dealers.

Or when he says he would gladly take immigrants from Norway or Sweden, but not these other countries that just have people with a really good tan.

Or when he calls African countries shit holes,

or when he trashes the people of Puerto Rico.

Or when he tells hispanic, black and middle eastern Congresswomen to go back where they came from.

When he says Baltimore is rat infested mess.

When he tried to ban all Muslim people from entering the country.

When he said there were very fine people at a Neo Nazi rally.

When he said that 15,000 Haitian refugees "all had AIDS".

When he said “Our inner cities, African Americans, Hispanics are living in hell because it’s so dangerous. You walk down the street, you get shot.”

Well, his words are just being twisted by the FAKE NEWS media. the enemy of the people. Especially when they show video of him making those statements. THAT'S where the real trickery is!
Because we all know that Trump is the least racist person we have ever known and that White Nationalist terrorism is not even in the top 100 things to worry about.
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It doesn't get much clearer than what?
Clear that she's lying about White Nationalist terrorism?

Lets look at the numbers:

Extremist-related murders spiked 35 percent from 2017 to 2018, "making them responsible for more deaths than in any year since 1995," (The Oklahoma City Bombing) Last year, every one of those extremist-related murders was carried out by a right-wing extremist.

Meanwhile, white supremacist propaganda distribution nearly tripled from 2017 to 2018, according to the ADL, which also documented a rise in racist rallies and demonstrations.

According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, 2018 was also the fourth straight year of hate group growth, culminating in a 30 percent increase overall, "roughly coinciding" with President Donald Trump’s campaign and presidency.

Last year’s murders at the hands of right-wing extremists reflect an ongoing trend. Center on Extremism, which has aggregated data going back to 1970, shows that over the last decade, a total of 73.3 percent of all extremist-related fatalities can be linked to domestic right-wing extremists, while 23.4 percent can be attributed to Islamic extremists. The remaining 3.2 percent were carried out by extremists who did not fall into either category.


But Candice knows this is NOT a problem. The REAL problem are those pesky Democrats who always seem to bring race up every four years. humph.

I mean, how could anyone bring race up when you have a man who is clearly NOT a raging racist, white nationalist supporting, bigot that ran for president and then get elected. I mean, bringing race up would be really despicable! Those shifty Democrats.
Lord Trump NEVER brings up race. Never besmirches those that are different.

When he lead a movement to prove the first black president was really not from the US, and was Muslim.
When he talks about people from Central and South America as animals, and infesting our country,
when he talks about having to stop invasions from murderers and rapists and drug dealers.

Or when he says he would gladly take immigrants from Norway or Sweden, but not these other countries that just have people with a really good tan.

Or when he calls African countries shit holes,

or when he trashes the people of Puerto Rico.

Or when he tells hispanic, black and middle eastern Congresswomen to go back where they came from.

When he says Baltimore is rat infested mess.

When he tried to ban all Muslim people from entering the country.

When he said there were very fine people at a Neo Nazi rally.

When he said that 15,000 Haitian refugees "all had AIDS".

When he said “Our inner cities, African Americans, Hispanics are living in hell because it’s so dangerous. You walk down the street, you get shot.”

Well, his words are just being twisted by the FAKE NEWS media. the enemy of the people. Especially when they show video of him making those statements. THAT'S where the real trickery is!
Because we all know that Trump is the least racist person we have ever known and that White Nationalist terrorism is not even in the top 100 things to worry about.
No one mentioned Trump——Classic Trump Derangement Syndrome

Always believe the white liberals. They ALWAYS know what’s best for the black community.🙄
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It doesn’t get much clearer than this, sorry that it’s from Facebook, but the clip is actually from C-Span and completely unaltered from the Congressional hearing. I hope that satisfies anyone’s annoyance with the source and the actual issues can be discussed

https://www.facebook.com/conserveour...7980814411084/
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Iowa is currently Warren, Biden and everyone else.
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No one mentioned Trump——Classic Trump Derangement Syndrome

Always believe the white liberals. They ALWAYS know what’s best for the black community.🙄
Yes, Trump derangement on your part for sure.

No one mentioned Trump. Sure. But why do you think crazy Candice is acting like White Nationalism violence isn't an issue? Because it's obvious to anyone with the slightest shred of common sense to see that the election of Trump has fueled a large rise in right wing terrorism, and in racist group affiliation and hate crimes of all kinds.

She spent half the time clarifying why she laughed about something, and the other half denying that right wing terrorism is a problem in the slightest. Except that about 60% of the American public thinks is a serious threat and US intelligence has sighted as a serious problem.
But Candace knows best i guess.
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Since i don't usually pay attention to her - i had no idea she saying such stuff.

Trump is the loudest dog-whistle in (at least) modern USA history! Besides of ciurse, his outright racist statements.
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No one mentioned Trump——Classic Trump Derangement Syndrome



Always believe the white liberals. They ALWAYS know what’s best for the black community.


Candace only exists because of Trumpism, so it goes without saying.

Always believe the Trumpists grifter. They ALWAYS echo your feelings.
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Following the Trump- Ukraine- Biden-whistleblower stuff (and ghouliani)


Luckily Rachel Maddow's Fri & Sat programs laid it out well esp since they had been following the timeline already of Trump withholding $$$ to Ukraine after (I think) their new president had been elected.

(add in that I'm half 2nd Gen Ukrainian-American and don't like Putin trying over take that country)

Just read they actually did release the aid, but not till this month.
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How today’s media would cover the initial watergate break

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Yeah it’s almost over. Everyone is talking about Biden’s son like it’s the emails part 2. And the media lets them ramble on.
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Back in 2017 Trump admitted on tv that he fired Comey to stop the Russia investigation.

Today, he just admitted on tv again that he asked a foreign country to find dirt on a political opponent.

Trump isn’t trying to get impeached, he’s enjoying not getting caught
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I mean come on...

He's openly flaunting his criminality in the open because he knows the democrats are too chicken shit to do anything about it.
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From the same guy who said the wall was so hot that you could fry an egg on it.

Yep. Stable genius.
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They don't go after me now, i chose not to engage anymore. it's like talking to a Trumpelton. No amount of reason, or clear statement of fact will sway either group. I dropped off Twitter and Facebook because it was just too depressing.
It just is infuriating to see that these people are still at it. Saw an IG post the other day by the Democratic Party page asking who they are most excited about. Pretty much a "If Biden is nominated, I won't vote" bonanza.

The Dem electorate in general needs to pull their heads out of their asses and realize that the president is just about the most useless seat to fill. Sure you need the presidency, but the Senate and with it, Supreme Court seats, and Federal Judicial seats are where the real change is made.

Claiming some moral or political superiority, shouting into the wind, with nothing to show for it, while everything crumbles down around you, is just pathetic.
Probably smart of you to walk away. Better mental health and directing your energy elsewhere.

Can't agree with that ("the president is just about the most useless seat") wf. The proof is in the pudding, as they say; Trump's tone and certain declaratives unearthed the raging rascists- with horrific results.
The President sets the tone, the tenor (in general) of the country's direction, hopes, goals, etc. And the saying "The President proposes,and Congress disposes".


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oh, that "new sports 'competition '" video!!!

Plus this from another poster...
"I think he meant to say: "This wall can't be climbed...by me" - Donald Trump"
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Zelensky did not explicitly connect the two in our meeting, but he was VERY concerned about the cut off of aid, and VERY aware of the conversations that Rudy Giuliani was having with his team. I told him it was best to ignore requests from Trump’s campaign operatives. He agreed.


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