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when did i do that? pretty sure i wouldn't have said something that objectively dumb.

edit: i went to search because i knew i never said something that fucking stupid, and yea you made up some fake news horse shit. i've said bloomberg's name twice in the past year here and one of them was yesterday's post about paying instagram influencers. the other one was saying that trump will call him a socialist no matter what. fucking weak, dude. :rolleyes:

https://www.u2interference.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8321784

Sad! ;)
 
YouGov Poll - Question asked of African American voters.
Who would you vote for as your first choice in the Democratic primary?

Biden - 43%
Warren - 14%
Bloomberg - 12%
Sanders 8%
Yang 5%
Pete - 4%
Amy K - 1%

This suggests that (at least as of now), Biden's South Carolina firewall will hold.

Which will then throw the centrist Biden/Buttigieg vote in disarray. (Amy K will be gone)

Allowing Bloomberg to step in and say "neither of these guys can unite the vote, but I can, also here is a billion or two of ads trolling Trump."

If the SC firewall fails, then it's a totally different ballgame.
 
No he’s right, we are all obsessed with him.

He brings great humor in the form of a living meme, the notion that he’s just craaaazy about Jesus Christ. He’s soooo Christian. He’s so religious, he loves Jesus. He practices all of Jesus’s lessons. He is... Jesus freak!

I’m happy to listen and debate and argue opposing views. I’m happy to be friends with people who have other views. But an aggressive pseudo-Christian, no thank you.

But how do you feel about black gay Muslim women in hijabs with guns

Be Best, lucky.
 
This suggests that (at least as of now), Biden's South Carolina firewall will hold.

Which will then throw the centrist Biden/Buttigieg vote in disarray. (Amy K will be gone)

Allowing Bloomberg to step in and say "neither of these guys can unite the vote, but I can, also here is a billion or two of ads trolling Trump."

If the SC firewall fails, then it's a totally different ballgame.

Yeah, it does look like SC is holding for Biden so far. But SC is three weeks away. We'll have to see if it can hold as it looks like everything else is starting to crumble for him.

Two other takeaways.
One, Bloomberg at 12% at this point already, without him having been on stage as a candidate, or in the primaries, which means most people haven't even put him in the mix very much when thinking of who to vote for, is quite impressive.
It backs up my post from a couple days ago regarding Jason Johnson and Reverend Al saying that they were hearing Bloombergs name come up a lot with black voters. If Biden crashes, he is going to pick up a lot of support.

Two, I didn't know anyone could do worse than Pete with black voters. But Amy managed to, quite handily. :huh:
 
I’m still surprised that no one mentioned Elizabeth Warren finally being honest during the debate that the black community only matters to Democrats during election time.

I mean, it’s the truth, but no one here has thoughts on that ????????
 
I’m still surprised that no one mentioned Elizabeth Warren finally being honest during the debate that the black community only matters to Democrats during election time.

I mean, it’s the truth, but no one here has thoughts on that ??í*¾í´”



I’m still wondering why Republicans have done everything they can to appeal to whites only and be as repellant as they can to non-white voters when they know it’s demographic suicide. I mean, I’m sure the simple minded among us are convinced by a few SOTU plants who get scholarships like Oprah passing out Lincolns, but most people see through that.

Is it because racism inspires conservatives to get out there and vote as if the white race depends on it?

Thoughts?
 
I’m still wondering why Republicans have done everything they can to appeal to whites only and be as repellant as they can to non-white voters when they know it’s demographic suicide. I mean, I’m sure the simple minded among us are convinced by a few SOTU plants who get scholarships like Oprah passing out Lincolns, but most people see through that.

Is it because racism inspires conservatives to get out there and vote as if the white race depends on it?

Thoughts?

Here's the thing. Republicans, who ironically preach self-reliance and rule of law etc..., are the party of victims. They are always ready to blame some other group of people for the ills of the world, or their personal struggles.
So just as the republican party was beginning to wake up and realize that their older, white, wealthy guy base was not going to sustain itself much longer, they started making efforts to appeal to Latino voters. This was back in the Bush years and into Obama's terms. Jeb and his spanish, setting up Rubio as the "future of the party" Alberto Gonzoles as Attorney General, creating outreach programs, etc...

But then came their glowing orange god, descending from Heave... I mean the second floor, on an escalator. We all know the story, yadda, yadda, yadda, he becomes president.

Now, the party of victims has found the ultimate leader. The constant victim of all things. Donald, The Marmalade Molester, Trump.
He whips the victims into a frothy fury, as he tells them that Mexicans and South Americans are the cause of their problems. The media is the enemy. your enemy, they are lying to you, whatever you see from the media is fake because they are against me and you and we are their victims.

Marches in streets with hordes of pasty white victims with guns and torches. Chanting about Jews and African Americans. And who stands by these victims side? The Golden Blob. There to assure all neo-nazi fucksticks that they are indeed very fine people.

This opens up the floodgates of all those racists, that had been bottling it up as best they could for so long. We all know them. It's your uncle, or your mom, or brother. Sure they would say things like "Those people" or "why can't the blacks just help themselves?"

But now - freedom! The racists. The poor victims of political correctness, and affirmative action, bi-racial marriage and black folks moving into their neighborhood, had finally been given the freedom to be the assholes they are and it felt so good!

The leader of the victims could no wrong. He was so strong and would protect them from the evil brown intruders with huge steel walls. The best walls. And they were gonna pay for it. He protects us from the liberals and the media and the war on Christmas and baby killers, he tells us its ok to hate.

The GOP had the chance and even started to move to be a more inclusive party, but was sidelined along the way. Sure, Trump has been a disaster for our country. Never in my wildest dreams could I have imagined it would be this bad when i thought about it 3 years ago. But what they don't understand is that Trump has just dramatically shortened the life of the party. They could have shifted course and built a new, younger, more inclusive party. But Trump was too tempting, too freeing, spoke to them too clearly in a way they waited so long to hear.
But now, as baby boomers head to the great beyond, and our country becomes more diverse by the month. There will come a tipping point. Most likely in this decade, where the party as it exists now will die.
Once TX is blue, and GA is blue and AZ is blue, and FL is dependably blue. The game is over. And they will have Trump, and their victimhood to thank.
 
Witness retribution is illegal.

But it’s ok, Susan Collins is sure Twump learned from this and will do better next time.
Well she's not wrong.

He learned that his behaviour is A-OK.
:lol: :sad::sad:
well said.



Is Yang courting MAGAs?? So whatever crime you commit during office it just washes away when you step away?

If that's true? Un, nooo, actions have cosequences, though context can sometimes be a factor.



Y'all Qaeda

:yikes:

Lol! That is truly terrifying though. Looks like some movie scenario but it's grossly real.

I don't know if @whitehousephoto is the official Trump WH photographer, but they actually posted this photo. Now, not so mysteriously, it's been changed to a black and white photo.

If it is an official account say bye bye to your job

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Glad someone got the color original! Very scary!

Macho men all decked out like wannabe soldiers.

While making sure their faces are hidden.
Yup.

And the kicker?

People that walked into that building with no gun strapped on them, had to go through the metal detectors and security.
The ones that came in with masks and semi-automatic weapons got to bypass the detectors and get waved through.

Yeah.
Hoooo boy...

This suggests that (at least as of now), Biden's South Carolina firewall will hold.

Which will then throw the centrist Biden/Buttigieg vote in disarray. (Amy K will be gone)

Allowing Bloomberg to step in and say "neither of these guys can unite the vote, but I can, also here is a billion or two of ads trolling Trump."

If the SC firewall fails, then it's a totally different ballgame.

It may partially depend on how many younger vs older AA turn out to vote. I think a few people have mentioned there is somewhat of a split with older AA way more for Biden.

I’m still wondering why Republicans have done everything they can to appeal to whites only and be as repellant as they can to non-white voters when they know it’s demographic suicide. I mean, I’m sure the simple minded among us are convinced by a few SOTU plants who get scholarships like Oprah passing out Lincolns, but most people see through that.

Is it because racism inspires conservatives to get out there and vote as if the white race depends on it?

Thoughts?
I think a fair amount of them do bc of that, maaaybe a majority. Plus sexism, anti- LGBTQUI, brown immigrants, muslims etc issues that Trump is for.

Paul Weyrich - "I don't want everybody to vote" (Goo Goo)
(one of the co-founders of the Heritage Foundation; extremely right-wing)
.

Oh, and Blarrrgggg!
 
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I've seen people write that if Bernie doesn't win the nomination they won't vote or will vote 3rd party. It must be nice to be so brave & noble. Or so privileged that another Trump term won't hurt them. They must live on another planet.
 
yeah, that's not this at all:



nice try though. ;)
unless it's an inheritance i find it exceptionally hard to believe that anyone became a multi-billionaire without taking vast numbers of cents from special interests.

vs

shits on Bloomberg for self financing because some special interest must have bought shit from him at some point

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And this is why we’ve been saying that Bernie fans are the absolute worst.

https://twitter.com/erckmelo/status/1226345831671853056?s=21

ha, they even have a cute nickname for the object of their hatred

They can go fuck themselves. I think Bernie is easily the best candidate but that doesn't mean that there are others that wouldn't also be good acceptable OR that getting the fascist out of office shouldn't be the priority. I don't know why these Bernie cultists can't understand that. Like, they think Bloomberg would be just as bad as Trump :doh: just because he's rich. They're absolutists and don't understand that there's a fucking scale of evil! Fore example, not all Wall Street devotees are made equally. Obama wasn't Bush. But try telling Bernie Bros that.

It's like they think that not only is this the only chance for sYsTEmicC ChAnGE but that it can only happen with Bernie. It's like they don't know how politics works or how history works. It's like they're children. But they're not. It's not possible to explain to them that things take time. Trying to talk to those people about nuance is just like talking to Trump supporters. Their minds are closed except to what they want to hear, and all that they want to hear is that they're victims and that they're better than everyone else.

It's like they've voting Bernie at people instead of for people. And if they don't get their guy they don't care what happens. They actually don't care about Nazis marching in the fucking streets, or about the climate, or about anything else except their own ego and grudge from 2016. To be clear, I'm only talking about Bernie supporters who will only vote if Bernie is the candidate.

Their obsession with Iowa and the "conspiracy" to fuck Bernie over is laughable. The same people who spent years demanding evidence that Russia was involved in the last election and then proceeded to disregard every piece of evidence that was presented because it wasn't strong enough are now running around believing something without any evidence to support it at all! It's ridiculous! And if you say "hey, is there proof? what is it?" they'll just attack you.

People who would sit out this election because they can't vote for Bernie are just as bad as people who vote for Trump. Maybe even worse because they pretend to care. Trumpists are open with their malice.
 
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Apparently a small group of GOP Senators — Tillis, McSally, Portman, and Silly Susan Collins — begged Trump not to revenge fire witnesses.

But of course he stepped on their throats and shit in their faces after getting what he wants. Because that’s what con artists do.

It would be surprising, if he hadn’t been doing exactly this for 3+ years and there’s is a long list of bodies with his heelprint on their necks and orange shit on their faces.

What a bunch of humiliating losers, and shame on people who root for the bullies and the thugs.
 
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Susan Collins and Martha McSally have a pretty good chance of being toast this November. I hope that Bloomberg pumps in $100M into each of the two states to destroy them.
 
"the absolute worst"

"can go fuck themselves"

"they don't know how politics works or how history works. it's like they're children"

"their minds are closed"

"all that they want to hear is that they're victims and that they're better than everyone else"

"they don't care what happens"

"they don't care about nazis"

"they don't care about the climate"

"they don't care about anything else except their own ego and grudge from 2016"



you literally sound like an unhinged trump fan screeching about "libtards" and "elites".
 
Apparently a small group of GOP Senators — Tillis, McSally, Portman, and Silly Susan Collins — begged Trump not to revenge fire witnesses.

But of course he stepped on their throats and shit in their faces after getting what he wants. Because that’s what con artists do.

It would be surprising, if he hadn’t been doing exactly this for 3+ years and there’s is a long list of bodies with his heelprint on their necks and orange shit on their faces.

What a bunch of humiliating losers, and shame on people who root for the bullies and the thugs.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that they had conversations with the Trump prior to the vote and he assured them that he sees why his actions were misconstrued and they didn't have to worry about him going down that road again.

These people are truly sick in the head. And I just hope we can do enough to remove all of them and a few more this November.

that said - go help and forward onto others
https://www.paybackproject.org/
 
unless it's an inheritance i find it exceptionally hard to believe that anyone became a multi-billionaire without taking vast numbers of cents from special interests.

vs

shits on Bloomberg for self financing because some special interest must have bought shit from him at some point

yiKMuvm.gif

stretch armstrong will be giving you a call later this afternoon to review best practices.
 
Latest NH Poll has Warren in third, and gives a hint that Amy K may pass up Joe on election day.

If Biden finishes 5th in NH. That could be a position that could start to shift his NV and SC numbers.

And just reflecting a bit. It is pretty strange to see The national frontrunner finishing 4 or 5th in first primaries and the one running 5th nationally is hitting the top or top 2 spots in these.

It does tend to back up Biden's claim that you have to see the first 4 in their entirety before making any rash assumptions. Unfortunately these first two states could alter the second two enough where its too late for him.

Best idea for Democratic primaries going forward. First - NO caucuses.
Second, the first 4 states in the primary every cycle, are the 4 states that had the lowest margin of vote total from the prior presidential election. That would mean this year it would be Michigan, NH, Wisconsin and Florida. That's a decent mix to have before super tuesday.

And why not have a First Choice Tuesday. and have all those 4 states vote on the same day? This way you not only get a representative group of states, but you get to hear who voters actually want, without the bent filter of who won the first one or two...
Just a thought.
 
Like, they think Bloomberg would be just as bad as Trump :doh: just because he's rich. They're absolutists and don't understand that there's a fucking scale of evil!

Hollow you may not have gotten the memo, but scales of any kind are frowned upon in the forum. Evil, racism, you name it.

All very uncouth ;)
 
I feel like NH polls are volatile. Remember in 2008 when HRC stunned Obama in NH?

It’s a lot of very cold white people. They can do anything.
 
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