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Old 02-18-2020, 07:10 AM   #621
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There’s nothing gay about wanting to touch someone’s biceps. WTF?
No - but the Rudy AIDS comment was not cool. And I have zero issues with bashing Rudy - just not that way.
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Old 02-18-2020, 07:12 AM   #622
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No - but the Rudy AIDS comment was not cool. And I have zero issues with bashing Rudy - just not that way.


Good call. Next time I’ll probably wish a really bad case of hemorrhoids because at least that’s non fatal.
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perhaps the $450 billion saved per year under medicare for all might help to mitigate that effect for the insurance workers who lose their jobs.
How do you pass it?
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Bernie supporters under more scrutiny on their attacks on Culinary.

Disclaimer: no I’m not trying to troll but pointing out that this is going to start to become a big problem for Bernie if it doesn’t get under control.
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Looking forward to seeing Bloomberg in the debate tomorrow night
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The fact that you're not at 100% for Warren vs Donald Trump is frankly, appalling.

He is basically half brain-dead and degenerating at an exponential rate before our eyes, while continuing to be propped up by a criminal cabal.

If his is how even a fraction of the 30% who support Bernie will behave, then the whole world is fucked, honestly.
I agree completely. You can't always get what you want, if you try sometimes you just might find you get what you need.
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How do you pass it?



Once Bernie is the nominee, the workers of the world will unite to seize control of the means of production. And the Senate.
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How is that relevant to my comment that the whole world is fucked?

It's been a number of years since I've lived in the US (in an evil, blue state, obv).
It's not relevant. There's no citizenship or residency requirement before one can realize how much Trump has fucked things up and continues to do so. Has been given a blank check by the GOP Senate and House too.

Should we build a wall around FYM too?
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No - but the Rudy AIDS comment was not cool. And I have zero issues with bashing Rudy - just not that way.


Excuse me, but who are you to be saying what mikal said was acceptable? If a guy tells me, a (gay) guy, he wants to feel my body as he’s trolling me on a web forum, I have every right to be annoyed by that.

What blows my mind is that you’re able to sit here and rail at Bernie bros for this behavior, and yet mikal is literally behaving exactly like one. But, according to multiple posters on this forum, that behavior is exclusive to Bernie bros and nobody on the left is like them at all in any way.
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Excuse me, but who are you to be saying what mikal said was acceptable? If a guy tells me, a (gay) guy, he wants to feel my body as he’s trolling me on a web forum, I have every right to be annoyed by that.

What blows my mind is that you’re able to sit here and rail at Bernie bros for this behavior, and yet mikal is literally behaving exactly like one. But, according to multiple posters on this forum, that behavior is exclusive to Bernie bros and nobody on the left is like them at all in any way.
Ok after that, I no longer want to feel your biceps.
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Just a warning. The Nevada caucus process could be fucked.

saw a post from a friend on IG. It said:

Voted in the NV Caucus. They changed a rule at the last minute where you don't have to vote for 5 different top 5 (or 3 different top 3) they can be any combination...

Not sure exactly what that means, other than, utter confusion...
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Get rid of the damn Caucuses.

Closed Primaries, no apps!!!
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I mean, the whole point of the caucus system is having an order of choices, that is the only way that you could determine if someone meets the 15% threshold, and if not the next choice would be added to the ones at the 15%.
WTF...
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I don’t understand why we don’t just have multiple days of voting to resolve ranked voting. Caucusing has better intentions, it’s just executed poorly.
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Excuse me, but who are you to be saying what mikal said was acceptable? If a guy tells me, a (gay) guy, he wants to feel my body as he’s trolling me on a web forum, I have every right to be annoyed by that.

What blows my mind is that you’re able to sit here and rail at Bernie bros for this behavior, and yet mikal is literally behaving exactly like one. But, according to multiple posters on this forum, that behavior is exclusive to Bernie bros and nobody on the left is like them at all in any way.
Regarding his comment about feeling your bicep? I think it was fairly obvious he was making an internet muscles joke that had absolutely nothing to do with sexuality. If you feel differently, I'm not going to say you're wrong or try and change your mind.

And please point to where I excused his behavior? Was it where I told him that his comment on Rudy was out of line? I'm a little baffled by why he's all of a sudden gone full on troll myself. I don't think it's helping anything, but there's a lot going on right now that I don't think is helping.
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Regarding his comment about feeling your bicep? I think it was fairly obvious he was making an internet muscles joke that had absolutely nothing to do with sexuality. If you feel differently, I'm not going to say you're wrong or try and change your mind.

And please point to where I excused his behavior? Was it where I told him that his comment on Rudy was out of line? I'm a little baffled by why he's all of a sudden gone full on troll myself. I don't think it's helping anything, but there's a lot going on right now that I don't think is helping.


Sorry, I realize it reads weird when you read what post I quoted of yours. He knows his audience fine well though, and he wouldn’t say that to anyone else. He shouldn’t be making any reference to my body. Sure, he’s making an “internet muscles” joke just as much as someone can make an Internet penis size joke just as much as someone can make an Internet female dog joke. And telling me he wants to feel them is a step far enough. He should make his dumb troll joke about how I’m flexing them, not how he wants to feel me. I, for one, don’t want him to touch me.

But yes I was definitely lumping the trolling with the AIDS comment with the “I wanna feel you” trolling as the same thing that people complain about with bernie bro trolls.
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Carry on guys. Didn’t mean to offend anyone. Went through some BS in my personal life this weekend that I’m dealing with and Dave C’s comment rubbed me the wrong way and it got out of hand.

Better I take it out in the internet than my kids I guess.
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I don't want Mikal to touch my biceps, either.
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Sorry, I realize it reads weird when you read what post I quoted of yours. He knows his audience fine well though, and he wouldn’t say that to anyone else. He shouldn’t be making any reference to my body. Sure, he’s making an “internet muscles” joke just as much as someone can make an Internet penis size joke just as much as someone can make an Internet female dog joke. And telling me he wants to feel them is a step far enough. He should make his dumb troll joke about how I’m flexing them, not how he wants to feel me. I, for one, don’t want him to touch me.

But yes I was definitely lumping the trolling with the AIDS comment with the “I wanna feel you” trolling as the same thing that people complain about with bernie bro trolls.
I think we've all got our senses a little heightened right now for obvious reasons (and, for some, not as obvious reasons as Mikal just referenced).
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stay on target:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020...edictions.html

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Let’s start with a conservative estimate. Trump’s deregulatory environmental rampage completely stalls — rolling back no more protections against small-particulate pollutants or toxic carcinogens and nuking no more policies like the Clean Power Plan or parts of the Clean Water Act, but merely locking in the sadistic legacy of his first term — there will be as many as 80,000 additional American deaths over the course of the next decade. That’s roughly ten times as many as on D-Day, more than 20 times as many as on September 11, and almost 40 times the number of Japanese citizens who have died in the aftermath of the Fukushima nuclear meltdown. One million more Americans, The Journal of the American Medical Association reports, will suffer from respiratory illness.

Most presidents spend second terms trying to leave a lasting mark on foreign policy, and it is abroad where Trump’s environmental cruelty is likely to be felt most intensely. This is not just about the 2016 Paris accords, which technically Trump can only pull out of on November 5, the day after he’s reelected. In the meantime, he’s already fatally undermined them, along with like-minded sadists Prime Minister Scott Morrison of Australia and President Jair Bolsonaro of Brazil — a trio of world leaders who may come to be seen much more clearly, in a second term for Trump, as a climate axis of evil. In the latest round of post-Paris climate negotiations, the three countries spiked nearly every possibility of meaningful progress. If you add to the axis Vladimir Putin and his petrostate and Xi Jinping and his have-it-both-ways approach (building renewable farms alongside new coal fleets), the loose alliance of climate inaction accounts for more than half of all global emissions. That’s a very powerful veto.
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