Total moral bankruptcy.
Well this was a read.
FWIW, MM isn’t STING. I can still spot Mr Resolution 1441 a mile away, no matter the subject.
Victor Davis Hansen is absolutely a right wing outrage merchant and doesn’t qualify as a legitimate source.
Other than that, I’ve enjoyed this exchange. Really.
Total moral bankruptcy.
And right back to women are killing babies.
Here’s an idea, maybe try to improve the lives of minorities and abortions will go down.
Chipping away at their ability to make improvements, such as education funding, the ability to vote to make changes, and on a tougher scale racism that permeates thru the south.
Banning abortion won’t solve anything. It’ll make things worse.
And it has nothing to do with our government abusing children. The same people who claim life is precious
I’d fucking abort a child if i knew this is how they’d be treated after they are born.
No soap or sanitary items. Sleeping on concrete
Being fed FROZEN UNCOOKED FOOD
The GOP is showing they only care about controlling a women’s body, White people, and guns
Not a single fucking statement from a GOP congress member about this human rights abuse
Going to “yeah, well what about unborn children” is the right wing equivalent of “that sounds like something Hitler might say.”
Absolutely and totally inappropriate and shows a total lack of ability to make an argument about the thing at hand. And the sanctimonious anecdote about your highly specific situation and the *choice* you and your wife made and now look how amazing you are as something that we should all learn from is unbelievably condescending. And then you wrap it as some kind of racism concern. No.
You don’t get to compare children wrapped in metal blankets in cages being used as a method of terrorizing people in Latin America to what a woman may or may not do with her body. It’s a completely bogus comparison to make (one VDH and every other person in the right wing grievance complex has made, and where does it end, really?) and I won’t engage any further on that.
imagine being in an angry frenzy for two days just because someone posted a picture of the soviet flag flying in berlin
Imagine having your ass handed to you in a debate and resorting to your typical tantrum tactics until the predictable moderator comes to your rescue yet again
FYM you never change
It speaks of our disregard for life in general, so yes it does have bearing. Yes the comparison is state sponsored genocide of Blacks and Latino's in our country, vs abhorrent treatment of Latin Americans trying to get in the country. Both are a war against minorities, only your liberal sensibilities blind you from it.
Imagine having your ass handed to you in a debate and resorting to your typical tantrum tactics until the predictable moderator comes to your rescue yet again
FYM you never change
This is a good one, it shows pictures of an Obama era detention center and a Trump one, looks the same, and looks like some of your ALT-Im pictures
https://qz.com/1291470/photos-immigrant-children-detained-at-the-placement-center-in-2014/
Immigration experts have told us that family separations were relatively rare under Obama and other past administrations. They did not happen at nearly the scale that they did under the Trump administration.
George W. Bush’s Operation Streamline referred for prosecution immigrants who crossed into the country illegally, but made exceptions for adults traveling with children. The Obama administration initially kept families together in detention, but after losing a legal challenge, released families out of detention after holding them for a limited time.
The Department of Homeland Security, which oversees border enforcement, previously told PolitiFact that Obama’s administration did not count the number of separated families.
It’s unclear exactly how many children were separated from their parents during Trump’s administration, which has acknowledged problems in its logistics and record-keeping. Under a court order, around 2,800 children have been reunited with their parents or otherwise discharged from federal custody.
The controversial family separations under Trump’s watch happened as a result of a new policy introduced in April 2018 by Trump’s then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions.
Sessions said an "escalated effort" was needed to address a crisis at the southwest border and directed the implementation of the "zero-tolerance" policy, to prosecute all adults illegally entering the United States.
In March 2017, then-DHS Secretary John Kelly told CNN he was considering separating children from parents to deter illegal immigration. In the Telemundo interview, Trump also said that "when you put the parents together with the children, when you don’t separate," more people arrive at the border.
Amid growing backlash and criticism of family separations, Trump issued an executive order to keep families together, even if a parent faced prosecution. Families will be detained together "where appropriate and consistent with law" and based on available resources, said his June 2018 order.
Before issuing the order, Trump had claimed that family separations could not be stopped through an executive order. That wasn’t true, either.
Our ruling:
Trump said, "When I became president, President Obama had a separation policy. I didn’t have it. He had it."
The Obama administration did not have a policy to separate families arriving illegally at the border. Family separations rarely happened under the Obama administration, which sought to keep families together in detention. Then, based on a court decision, it released families together out of detention.
Separations under Trump happened systematically as a result of his administration’s policy to prosecute all adults crossing the border illegally. After mounting public pressure and criticism, Trump signed an executive order to stop separating families. Around 2,800 children have been reunited with their families because a court ordered the Trump administration to do so.
Trump repeatedly attempts to change the narrative about family separations, but the facts remain the same. Obama did not pass down to Trump a policy to separate families.
Trump’s claim is inaccurate. We rate it False.
Right now you are being played as useful idiots:[/FONT][/COLOR]
In political jargon, a useful idiot is a derogatory term for a person perceived as a propagandist for a cause, the goals of which he or she does not fully comprehend, and who is used cynically by the leaders of the cause
Imagine having your ass handed to you in a debate and resorting to your typical tantrum tactics until the predictable moderator comes to your rescue yet again
FYM you never change
People aren’t putting children in camps because a small % of women have to make one of the most difficult choices in their lives.
So please stop comparing the two as tho they are linked.
They each can be discussed and debated on their own, but this idea that oh well if black women weren’t having abortions willy nilly, then conservative lawmakers would show more compassion to brown families coming across the border.
I am ready to march on the streets if that’s what it takes to stop this madness. It’ll take something like a Hong Kong protest
Cause twitter posts won’t do it.
It’s just a helpless feeling to watch this go on
This is the finest example of the pot calling the kettle back we’ve had in years in FYM.
You don’t get to compare children wrapped in metal blankets in cages being used as a method of terrorizing people in Latin America that.
1st. Ok if conditions were just as bad under Obama, the same metal blankets, the same frigid cells, why is it Trumps fault? If the conditions were the same under a Democrat, why would putting another Dem in change anything.
2nd. You don't know my politics
The arguments you think you’re effortlessly constructing are repeated endlessly in right wing media. .
Why are we blaming the GOP, where did they sanction this?
Today we are here to send a message to the world: we are not going to let this country be overwhelmed.
People are not going to caravan or otherwise stampede our border.
We need legality and integrity in the system.
That’s why the Department of Homeland Security is now referring 100 percent of illegal Southwest Border crossings to the Department of Justice for prosecution. And the Department of Justice will take up those cases.
this really is frustrating. i now sympathize with Dave C. you aren't even reading.
Imagine having your ass handed to you in a debate and resorting to your typical tantrum tactics until the predictable moderator comes to your rescue yet again