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On a personal level I find Don Jr. even more irritating than the old man. At least Trump will be dead in a few short years. The other one will continue to live in ignorant privilege for decades.
 
We went from "total exoneration" to "total bullshit" in record time.

It's really setting a nice tone on Good Friday to be ranting on Twitter about "total bullshit." Not that a single Evangelical Republican will take offence.

Though I recently spoke with an American client, this guy is a now retired CEO of a very well known company, super wealthy, very proud Trump voter. But he now told me that he doesn't support him anymore because of "the porn star lies". I was totally flabbergasted - I mean that's the stuff that we all knew about for certain before the election. And THIS is where he's now drawing the line? But it's quite possible that among the ultra wealthy country club Republicans he's now become far too gauche to continue to support.
 
Here's the problem. Dems will start in hearings, subpoena a ton of info, get stuff cleared through court filings, etc... By that time we are talking about things rolling along around fall maybe...
primary votes start in the winter. By that time, we are fighting to kick him out via the vote. It will be like 8 months until the presidential election. While i totally agree, this is all impeachable, I just don't know what they should do with this time line. It actually makes me sick to my stomach. What the report shows is that Mueller is even hinting like - Hey, this is impeachable. Remember, you can impeach, and this prick can still face criminal charges after he's gone... etc...
I think Barr should be removed, it would show that he was flat out lying about the report. I just no longer have any faith in the electorate. I feel like I live in an alternate universe with people that could support a person that I think may be one of the most disgusting people to ever walk the face of the earth. But Pat from Ohio will say, eh, I got a 50 dollar tax cut, so Trump has my vote!

Maybe if they keep dripping out bad information, maybe if they get something good from the tax returns.. I don't know. Maybe it will chip away at some common sense independents.

all very demoralizing.
 
Biden is announcing Wednesday.

I still am a Biden backer at this point. I can't stand to listen to Beto anymore. His speech voice, just grates on me, and I don't see him having any real substance with what he says. I have kinda fallen a little flat with Harris. She's good. Fine. But i don't see her doing what needs to be done electorally. She's not going to win back the midwest, she's not gonna flip Florida. Maybe she could pick up NC. who knows.
I'm a big fan of Mayor Pete. I do think he could has some great strengths. But it is a little late for him to win any strong minority voter support as a top of the ticket candidate.

I know I've said it before. But there is no question that Biden would win back WI, MI and PA. I think with the right VP pick, he could play strongly in FL, pick up NC and even put GA in play. At this point, i don't give a shit about true progressive nonsense. I want this orange dickhole out of office and we can move on from there.
 
Why even have rules/laws if neither party will follow them?


Impeach him in the house and let the GOP continue to show their true colors

Plus you never know what can happen. With more info becoming public from the impeachment process it’ll get more pressure from the public

https://twitter.com/sarahkendzior/status/1119045295927648256?s=21



Agreed 100%. I don’t know that the Dems winning the White House in 2020 is anywhere close to guaranteed. Time to send a message with impeachment proceedings.
 
We shouldn’t be scared of his base either. They aren’t going to turn on him.

We need to get independents, and GOP voters who can’t stand Trump against him even more. Keep shining lights on what he’s done and doing.

Cause if we can’t do impeachment the Dems really need to focus on securing our electoral system(s)

Make sure every vote counts
 
I would love to see Trump impeached and removed from office, but it's not going to happen. Even if he is impeached, no way in Hell will you get enough Republicans in the Senate to remove him from office. The only way Trump gets removed is from a heart attack caused from all his hamberders or the Dems win in 2020.
Also, No way will Trump resign. Not with his ego.
 
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I actually think Trump loses 2020 by a narrow margin and refuses to leave office calling it rigged. And forces the country to sit through months of litigation.
 
The house has passed gun control, voter laws, healthcare improvements

And the senate shot them all down

You impeach because it’s the right thing to do, fuck the senate.

And i agree with Mikal, Trump isn’t going to leave
 
Joe Biden was in Dorchester MA yesterday supporting the striking Stop and Shop workers and talking about the importance of unions. Good strategy.

I wanted Beto to beat Ted Cruz but he's so annoying to me. Not to sound like Trump *shudder* but the hands waving all the time and the way he speaks. He's so hyped up but there's no content there. Almost like a different version of Trump.

No Beto for me, no thanks.

Trump will spend all of Good Friday and Easter weekend tweeting bs about the report. He doesn't like Jesus getting all the attention ?
 
On a personal level I find Don Jr. even more irritating than the old man. At least Trump will be dead in a few short years. The other one will continue to live in ignorant privilege for decades.

?? I sure wish Don Jr had been indicted, he is such a smug jerk. Not only will he live in ignorant privilege, what if he runs for President? Ivanka and Jared want to do that too.
 
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?? I sure wish Don Jr had been indicted, he is such a smug jerk. Not only will he live in ignorant privilege, what if he runs for President? Ivanka and Jared want to do that too.

*Shudders at the thought*

Maybe we'll be lucky and one of the other ongoing investigations will nab them, too? If somebody can make it so this entire shitty family spends their days in jail, that'd be wonderful.
 
George Conway called for impeachment too, no surprise there

Interesting article about Pete Buttigieg and his firing of an African American police chief in South Bend

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/19/us/politics/buttigieg-black-police-chief-fired.html
 
Yeah, I definitely don't think he'd do that willingly, no. Like stated, it'd have to be something that he's forced into doing, for whatever reason (something's about to come to light that's so incredibly devastating to him personally AND politically that even he can't fight or bury it, or he learns he and/or his family are about to actually face some kind of serious legal/criminal charges, or things of that sort).
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got it.
Who knows, but we can hope!

So surreal. I was feeling weirder last night, and couldn't place my finger just on it besides the obvious, when it dawned on me earlier today, that most of you only remember Clinton's impeachment, perhaps for some a vauge memory because you were really young of Nixon.

But i remember both cleary, and i think the thought of a third one (which i think should happen) is extra surreal ! :huh:
 
So surreal. I was feeling weirder last night, and couldn't place my finger just on it besides the obvious, when it dawned on me earlier today, that most of you only remember Clinton's impeachment, perhaps for some a vauge memory because you were really young of Nixon.

But i remember both cleary, and i think the thought of a third one (which i think should happen) is extra surreal ! :huh:

Yep. Everything with Nixon happened ten years before I was born. I was 14 years old when Clinton's happened, and all I really remember of it are just whatever I heard on the radio during news reports (and of course, I've seen the "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" clip), as well as a LOT of late night jokes. I may have seen/heard more, but if I did, I'm blanking on it.

But yeah, it's very interesting looking at and comparing the circumstances surrounding Nixon and Clinton to this, and the response of both parties then and now.
 
This is only plays into his hands



His tiny ones ?

How so ? He’s got his 35% base who don’t care. They just want to own the libs

Somehow with all the evidence coming to light in these hearings he’ll win support back from moderates and others ?

I think it would drive him even nuttier and there would be nothing he can do to stop the info from coming out.
 
Yep. Everything with Nixon happened ten years before I was born. I was 14 years old when Clinton's happened, and all I really remember of it are just whatever I heard on the radio during news reports (and of course, I've seen the "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" clip), as well as a LOT of late night jokes. I may have seen/heard more, but if I did, I'm blanking on it.

But yeah, it's very interesting looking at and comparing the circumstances surrounding Nixon and Clinton to this, and the response of both parties then and now.

Back w Nixon there were honorable enough republicans who went to him to resign.

Now? :lmao::lmao: :sad:

I' ll be shocked if that happens!

Unless he does something so beyond the pale-- even for him!?!?
 
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His tiny ones ?

How so ? He’s got his 35% base who don’t care. They just want to own the libs

Somehow with all the evidence coming to light in these hearings he’ll win support back from moderates and others ?

I think it would drive him even nuttier and there would be nothing he can do to stop the info from coming out.

He gets to play the victim. Meanwhile Democrats become the party of impeachment-obstruction without ideas. That’s what he will do. It’s tough to beat an incumbent. Focus on the ballot box. Buttigieg is intriguing. Gets to play the outsider role.
 
How did it work out for the GOP by impeaching Clinton?

Pretty sure it worked out great for them, horrible for the rest of the world
 
I guess we are at square one. The 2020 election will be like trench warfare fighting over little pieces of ground. Don’t be shocked if Trump wins NV. The Vegas economy is a reflection of the national economy.
 
I guess we are at square one. The 2020 election will be like trench warfare fighting over little pieces of ground. Don’t be shocked if Trump wins NV. The Vegas economy is a reflection of the national economy.



He’s not running on the economy. He’s running on racism and abortion.
 
He’s not running on the economy. He’s running on racism and abortion.

He touts the economy whenever he can. Let’s face it, if there isn’t a downturn in fall 2020 many people will hold their nose and vote their wallets.

He is gaslighting abortion because NY dems overplayed their hand. IE symbolically lighting up the freedom tower for abortion rights. If gave the right a rallying cry
 
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