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Old 03-22-2019, 08:18 PM   #281
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I have a feeling that Trump will be saying, after he's seen the report, "I told you so...no collusion! witch hunt!" I hope I'm wrong.
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Old 03-22-2019, 08:41 PM   #282
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I have a feeling that Trump will be saying, after he's seen the report, "I told you so...no collusion! witch hunt!" I hope I'm wrong.
He'd be saying that regardless.

Imagine Trump tweeting 'Uh oh! Looks like I'm going to jail. Sad.'
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Old 03-22-2019, 11:37 PM   #283
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Why anyone wants Biden continues to baffle me.
I just want the person most likely to get Trump out of office.

And that's a sad perspective to have on leadership. But here we are.
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I just want the person most likely to get Trump out of office.

And that's a sad perspective to have on leadership. But here we are.
with all due respect, this attitude drives me nuts.

this is probably the most wide-open opportunity the left has had since 1976 and we're settling for "anybody but that orange dipshit".
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with all due respect, this attitude drives me nuts.

this is probably the most wide-open opportunity the left has had since 1976 and we're settling for "anybody but that orange dipshit".
It really does echo the virulent "anyone but Hillary" sentiment in many ways.

On the other hand, I've been kicking myself every day for the last 2.5 years for not supporting Hillary more aggressively when I had the chance, a person I don't share all that much with ideologically. And I know many on the left feel the same way.

It sucks.
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with all due respect, this attitude drives me nuts.

this is probably the most wide-open opportunity the left has had since 1976 and we're settling for "anybody but that orange dipshit".
It is.

With the right candidate.

Put up a young, vibrant progressive. BLAH BLAH BLAH. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH. Put someone up who can connect with people who don't really give a shit about policies the way we might, and you'll win.

Not a cranky 70+ year old white dude.

That may be sad. It's also reality.
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who said anything about AOC? aside from her needing way more experience, she's not even eligible because of her age.
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Nobody, but she's the young, vibrant progressive du jour so it was a preemptive insertion.
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Nobody, but she's the young, vibrant progressive du jour so it was a preemptive insertion.
She's also 29, can't run for president. (How quickly we forget our high school social studies classes)
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Oh who fucking cares it was the least important part. There, she's gone
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So Barr’s report on the Mueller Report clears Trump.

Trump will now praise Mueller.

Barr has just given Trump way more meat to feed his base and independents

This “report summary” now makes Trump a victim of congressional witch hunts.

I hope Mueller is called in to testify, and not in months, but as soon as this week.
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US Politics XIII: Don Jr. The Worst Judgment of Anyone in the World.

No one is coming to save us. Nothing will be easy. Drop the fantasies, the entitlement, the whining, the self-involved drama. Roll up your sleeves and do the real, hard, grinding work necessary to actually win elections by convincing voters on the actual issues at hand.

This also isn’t over.

2018 is the roadmap to 2020. And it is going to be ugly as fuck. Trump will go full conspiracy theory.
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So Barr’s report on the Mueller Report clears Trump.

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It does not.
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There will be no praise for Mueller.

It’s going to be: “they’ve always been out to get me, and you.”

The rurals will outperform the models again like they did in 2016; it comes down to the suburbs.
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This memo States that Trump was not a Russian asset, and that he is not exonerated from obstruction of Justice charges. DOJ said they won't pursue further action on obstruction.

All this memo does is set up a legal battle for the full report.
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So Barr’s report on the Mueller Report clears Trump.

Trump will now praise Mueller.

Barr has just given Trump way more meat to feed his base and independents

This “report summary” now makes Trump a victim of congressional witch hunts.

I hope Mueller is called in to testify, and not in months, but as soon as this week.


Nothing in either report “clears” anybody. Barr did not recommend charges against the president, based upon his legal opinion of the Mueller report. A report of which we don’t know its contents.

Trump will not praise Mueller.

The Mueller investigation isn’t congressional, but if you’re saying any future congressional investigation, I suppose it gives trump some justifiable reason to ignorantly say “it was already decided on.” But that’s just convenient ignorance.

I would imagine they intend to subpoena Mueller to testify if the report is not made public.
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The full report most be released, not a 4 page summary by a Trump appointee.
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So Barr’s report on the Mueller Report clears Trump.

Trump will now praise Mueller.

Barr has just given Trump way more meat to feed his base and independents

This “report summary” now makes Trump a victim of congressional witch hunts.

I hope Mueller is called in to testify, and not in months, but as soon as this week.
It’s fucking disgusting! I can already hear all the trumpets yapping away about this. This guy seriously gets away with murder. But keep in mind this was AG Barr’s conclusion ( the AG appointed by non other than trump) this was not Meullers conclusion. And yes I agree it’s not over and this does not actually clear trump as much as the GOP would have you believe.
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You do realize that it could be that Barr made a reasonable decision and that evidence wasn’t sufficient to prosecute the president directly?

That doesn’t exonerate him and doesn’t stop other investigations.

It’s really hard to know without knowing what’s in the report. We should be vigilant in demanding its transparency both to congress and the public.
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