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Old 03-20-2019, 11:00 PM   #261
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there's no such thing as a "war hero".
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Old 03-20-2019, 11:03 PM   #262
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Am I the only one here who finds the idea of McCain as a 'war hero' as somewhat discomforting?


No, but in fairness it does speak to his persona. Compare him to Lindsey Graham or Sick Dick Cheney.

John McCain was more of a fool who drank the kool aid and thought he was righteous.

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there's no such thing as a "war hero". that's just propaganda. if you save the lives of your comrades (as mccain did by holding out during torture) then you deserve admiration as a human being.

Right. Well. I would say you can be a “war hero” if you genuinely fight in a war where your participation is perhaps a necessity. For example, resistance fighters in WW2 Europe are war heroes.
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Old 03-20-2019, 11:24 PM   #263
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yes, i would like to revise that post. if you have shot nazis you're absolutely a war hero.
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No, but in fairness it does speak to his persona. Compare him to Lindsey Graham or Sick Dick Cheney.

John McCain was more of a fool who drank the kool aid and thought he was righteous.




Right. Well. I would say you can be a “war hero” if you genuinely fight in a war where your participation is perhaps a necessity. For example, resistance fighters in WW2 Europe are war heroes.

No arguments from me here.
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Old 03-21-2019, 04:06 PM   #265
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Even with the word "hero" thrown around and all that, I think the reaction is less about McCain being a saint and how fucking appalling it is that we have a president repeatedly and openly being so disrespectful.

This is the country where you can't even blow your nose during the national anthem, or say anything remotely negative about "THE TROOPS" without being criticized, so yeah. This is just Trump being an utter jackass as usual, but times a thousand.
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Old 03-21-2019, 09:21 PM   #266
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A birdie told me that those who are hoping Biden doesn't run aren't going to be overly thrilled.

Not a shocking spoiler alert or anything, but it would appear that he's putting his staff together
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Rumors too that he’ll pick Stacey Abrams as his VP
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Already picking a VP lol
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Old 03-21-2019, 10:12 PM   #269
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That’s the rumor. He met with her a week or two ago.

It’s also been a long standing rumor that Biden would only serve one term
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That’s not very promising.
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Why anyone wants Biden continues to baffle me.
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Why anyone wants Biden continues to baffle me.
It’s people who think he can reclaim the white working class in the rust belt. Polls suggests he could, but then again the white working class said fuck you to pollsters last time and that’s why some people never saw it coming.
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Except for you Orgie Porgie
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Why anyone wants Biden continues to baffle me.
Honestly at this point I think its purely name recognition. A lot of folks who aren't super invested in politics don't know a lot of the Democratic field yet, but Biden was Veep and people recognize him.
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This is my analysis

Biden is a familiar name. He does connect wonderfully with the White working class. He can also state he’ll continue on Obama type legacy (insert the usual groans)...

I’ll wait to see what his stances are on policies before i make any sort of judgement. My preference would be someone new
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Because people's vote in the general election either for or against a person, not necessarily ideas.

That's why.
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Mueller has submitted his report.
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Wow, it finally happened.

Wonder what’s next.
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