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AMI, through all their e-mails, sounds like a sleazy but totally Mickey Mouse operation. Dumber than dumb.
 
anitram said:
https://medium.com/@jeffreypbezos/no-thank-you-mr-pecker-146e3922310f



The National Enquirer trying to blackmail Jeff Bezos, potentially the only person in the world who at this point really could not care less. [emoji38]
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So your plan is to try and blackmail one of the richest and most powerful men in the world?

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BEAL said:
https://twitter.com/jkbjournalist/status/1093710334110695424?s=21


https://twitter.com/nycjim/status/1093686171606097920?s=21
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My first thought was - Wouldn't it be great if in the end, Trump got taken down for using government resources to direct the Enquirer to blackmail his enemies.
Or at least add it to the list of charges.

The most telling part was that they wanted him to stop his investigation into them and also state that there was no political motivation or pressure that resulted in their release of his private information. Who else in politics would have done such a thing, and had to influence over the Enquirer? Not to many.
 
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Headache in a Suitcase said:
Seems as if the Saudis may have been the "government" involved.

At who's direction? That's still to be decided (psst, it was the Trump administration)
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It really does all come together. Trump ignores a murdered journalist in Saudi Arabia, ordered by MBS. Concurrently Enquirer is sucking the Saudis nuts, printing glossy magazines of how great Saudi Arabia and MBS are. Trump has been intertwined with Enquirer extorting people for years, and his number one enemy just happens to have personal info stolen and released, ending his marriage and splitting his fortune. Then the same outlet, realizing they have fucked with the richest man on earth with unlimited resources to investigate into them, goes back and tries to blackmail him and tell him he has to say there was no political influence involved in it.

For anyone with a shred of a brain or common sense, we all know what took place. But be prepared to listen to the commentary for the next while saying, weeeelllll... IF Trump had any involvement, it really wouldn't be considered criminal on HIS part. And he can't be prosecuted as a president anyway, so let's move on to the next scandal we won't do anything about...
 
anitram said:
Please dear Lord let there be a great Democrat running against her in 2020.
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It will have to be a Democrat that does not mind losing. Her seat looks very safe given her landslide victories in 2002, 2008, and 2014.
 
They keep saying on tv news that it involved "below the belt selfies" that Bezos was sending to his mistress. Coming soon to Amazon-below the belt selfie sticks.

Teflon Don will just deny deny deny. It's just more Presidential harassment. Below the belt witch hunt!
 
womanfish said:
This is so true, and why the frustration was so great for people who knew the importance of getting behind the nominee in 2016, while continuing to listen to hoards of people on the left still badmouthing Clinton and calling her the lesser of two evils and continuing the #neverhillary nonsense.

We now have 2 supreme court justices and a boatload of circuit judges that have been placed because Hillary was not a "true progressive". Along with all the other absolute nonsense that is happening.

The fact is that i am all behind most farther left policy ideas, but the reality is that change happens in small amounts no matter who gets into office on the Dem side. Any of them will stand behind far more progressive policies than any republican would. The reality is that a few changes will get through and many won't.
More importantly would protect and hopefully reverse the destruction of the Judicial branch.

put up Biden/Harris, Biden/Klobuchar, Booker/Harris, Harris/Booker, Harris/Klobuchar, Biden/Castro... Whatever. Just get a bulletproof pair together and get this orange shitpile out.
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Thanks. While i'd probably would not be a "true" socialist (according to i suppose to some newspapers i see at many demos, i do see the value in the Scandinavian model of democratic socialism.

But we're probably not going to get something even close to that in this current climate. I like your ideas of how we could progress towards it, once we have a Dem back in the WH , and both houses.

Despite FDR's flaws he said basically push me to get more stuff done. The Right has been trying dismantle FDR's, LBJ's Social Safety Net since the start (among other things)! That we have been suffering through since Nixon in some ways, and from Reagan onward!

DaveC said:
umm, yes. she may have *some* native ancestry but this is equivalent to if i listed myself as black on government forms because i had one black great grandmother. that doesn't make me black and it doesn't make her native. yes it may not have mattered on this particular form, but it does raise the question of if she did the same thing on forms or elsewhere, where it would present some sort of benefit to be listed as a minority. and you know for a fact that even if the dems put this past them and nominated her that she'd be eviscerated over and over for it Hy her opponent. they'd beat her into the ground with it so much that she'd never have a chance to even talk about her policies. she was my preferred candidate before this too but that millstone is now too heavy to overcome.

she absolutely deserves a very important place in the government of whomever wins (knock on wood), but she's got about as much chance at being elected now as howard schultz.
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The African-American analogy still does not hold up in certain areas of the USA, actually. I double checked to make sure what i remembered was correct.

The One Drop Rule: How Black Americans Became …
soapboxie.com › Social Issues › Discrimination
Nov 29, 2012 · The Classifications. The classifications were Mulatto if you were half black and half white. Quadroon, if you were a quarter black and three fourth white. Octoroon, if you were one eighth black. If it could be proven that you had even "one drop" of black blood. You were considered to be black no matter how white you …


MrsSpringsteen said:
Oh I understand, it is especially galling given what he gets away with. But as we see time and time and time again, there are distinct and different standards for the orange Teflon Don and well everyone else. I am in favor of her proposed wealth tax, but the very sad reality is that it will get lost among all the Native American stuff. Which works out perfectly for those same wealthy people. Funny not funny how that works out.

I really wish she hadn't done those things, she's smart and has some good ideas. I've voted for her twice and it's very disappointing. For me it's about credibility. I don't know what was going on in her head that she seemingly thought she needed those advantages. Maybe because of her humble background? She's the only one who knows.
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Yeah, that 's a shame she did that . I'd be happy to have her in a Dem president's cabinate.

Btw love you have "Nancy" and her sarcastic clap! :up:
 
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dazzledbylight said:
The African-American analogy still does not hold up in certain areas of the USA, actually. I double checked to make sure what i remembered was correct.

The One Drop Rule: How Black Americans Became …
soapboxie.com › Social Issues › Discrimination
Nov 29, 2012 · The Classifications. The classifications were Mulatto if you were half black and half white. Quadroon, if you were a quarter black and three fourth white. Octoroon, if you were one eighth black. If it could be proven that you had even "one drop" of black blood. You were considered to be black no matter how white you …
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yes i know about the one-drop rule but that has been defunct in american law since well before i was born. only racists subscribe to that theory these days.

my point was that if i had for example knowingly claimed myself as black due to only one distant ancestor on, say, a job application and that was an influencing factor in the decision making process (like if the position was given to me based on affirmative action) that i tangibly benefited from, then that's morally fraudulent (not sure about legally) and flat-out unethical.

this is not a "but her emails" thing where everyone in that administration and the previous one did the same thing but clinton was just singled out and hammered away with it because she was a mortal enemy of the right. warren's issue is a true question of ethics. if she knowingly did that on other documents to try and gain an advantage or benefit, then it's absolutely a real problem. maybe she didn't do that anywhere else and this one bar application form is the only time. really only she knows that, and unfortunately for her i don't see how there's any possible way to prove that she didn't.
 
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Irvine511 said:
It’s official. Roberts is our swing Justice.
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trojanchick99 said:
Wow. Just saw that.
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I can't believe i missed this last night because i was hearing in late morning that we were waiting for the SC to rule on it. Then i remembered i got home in time for the full weather report on the late news and rushed today while just getting the weather!

I hope this is not a case of SCJ Roberts rejecting this only to kabosh RvW later when the "right" case is sent up. :(
 
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DaveC said:
yes i know about the one-drop rule but that has been defunct in american law since well before i was born. only racists subscribe to that theory these days.

my point was that if i had for example knowingly claimed myself as black due to only one distant ancestor on, say, a job application and that was an influencing factor in the decision making process (like if the position was given to me based on affirmative action) that i tangibly benefited from, then that's morally fraudulent (not sure about legally) and flat-out unethical.

this is not a "but her emails" thing where everyone in that administration and the previous one did the same thing but clinton was just singled out and hammered away with it because she was a mortal enemy of the right. warren's issue is a true question of ethics. if she knowingly did that on other documents to try and gain an advantage or benefit, then it's absolutely a real problem. maybe she didn't do that anywhere else and this one bar application form is the only time. really only she knows that, and unfortunately for her i don't see how there's any possible way to prove that she didn't.
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DAVE i know that. It's why i said in certain areas (very racist) in the USA, and while it isn't law anywhere any more - since when has that prevented some people from going ahead ad ignoring it. In a racist case an area where a big majority still feels like that, it could still be acted on in a racist way at least for a while.
Maybe i should have been more specific on this but i'm in a semi-rush traveling on the subway (station wifi).


Which is why i said further down in answer to Mrs S post that i wouldn't want her to run for president because of that - the unethical actions of trying to get ahead in that way on the application, etc.
 
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dazzledbylight said:
I can't believe i missed this last night because i was hearing in late morning that wr were waiting for the SC to rule on it. Then i remembered i got home on time in time for the weather on the late news and rushed today while just getting the weather!



I hope this is not a case of SCJ Roberts rejecting this only to kabosh RvW later when the "right" case is sent up. :(
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The anti-choice right was more distressed by Kavanaugh’s really narrow dissent.

However, some pro-choice writers have said that he finds a way to do this — tow a “I ain’t overturning Roe” line will still finding a way to deny abortion access.
 
Shocking breaking news-Trump is hated by everyone inside the WH and only truly listens to Jared and Ivanka

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/02/the-state-of-the-union-left-trump-stoked-but-some-of-his-staff-are-miserable
 
Every other week we get an article about morale being low in the WH. I have no doubt that it is. But what I don't understand is the stupidity of people who are coming onboard now, like Mulvaney. I mean, it's one thing to have started out in January 2017 and then "discovered" that Trump is a chaotic moron, but it's quite another knowing all we all know and going in with such a degree of wilful blindness. Absolutely zero empathy for them.
 
Irvine511 said:
The anti-choice right was more distressed by Kavanaugh’s really narrow dissent.

However, some pro-choice writers have said that he finds a way to do this — tow a “I ain’t overturning Roe” line will still finding a way to deny abortion access.
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Oh, i haven't had time to delve into the nuances as i missed public radio's news and discussions fri and today.
So thanks for some of that!

They sure keep effing chipping away! :mad:
 
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I feel like you’re kinda giving a platform for nobodies who are desperate for attention.

These people want you to google who they are. Don’t.
 
I highly doubt that anyone's paying attention to interference.com in that regard. Maybe we shouldn't post about Trump every day either, talk about an attention whore.
 
MrsSpringsteen said:
I highly doubt that anyone's paying attention to interference.com in that regard. Maybe we shouldn't post about Trump every day either, talk about an attention whore.
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I mean, you probably heard me many times during the republican primaries to insist to people to not get enraged by him and give him a platform.

We are a little beyond not talking about him as a deterrent.

And it’s a little bit bigger then just the attention of the users of this website. Internet virality (if we can call it that) is a calculable thing. When I load this thread or when anyone else loads this thread, and our web browsers load that image you’ve embedded, those links get a hit. That content just got x-interference-posters more ‘hot,’ assuming nobody goes beyond that. It’s an internet tragedy of the commons, “well I’m just one person and it’s no big deal.”
 
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