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Old 01-25-2019, 03:47 PM   #201
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i hope she smacks him around on Twitter. the idea of two women -- diametrically opposed though they may be -- humiliating him is just too wonderful to pass up.
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Poor Twumpy, there go his chances with Ann if he and Melania ever get divorced. Oops I forgot, that's not a requirement.
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remember when people thought Nancy Pelosi shouldn't be speaker?
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Can you imagine if they went with some freshman Congressperson??
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Yay, Pelosi . This is beautiful. May she please keep playing hardball with him and taking him to task like this for as long as he continues to stay in office.

Also good news about Stone. Here's hoping this continues to open more significant floodgates as quickly as possible.
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remember when people thought Nancy Pelosi shouldn't be speaker?
Right? Pelosi just schooled everyone in Congress on how to handle the Toddler-in-Chief. She is the only person for the job right now.
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A good day, finally!
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Let’s not get too excited.

This feels more like the GOP pushing how far they can go. This is just a breather between another round of this madness.

Loads of people were hurting during this, and for no good reason.

While i imagine everyone is happy to be getting a paycheck again, the stress level has to be so high. They are pawns at this point and if it were me I’d be trying to get out
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His approval rating was tumbling into the low 30s. That had a lot to do with it.

I hope the GOP smells blood in the water and primaries him. I don’t care that this could, in theory, make another GOP president more likely. He must be removed, and beating him or at least seriously damaging him in the primary is one way to do it.

What a lovely humiliation that would be. Lose in the primaries and then off to jail.
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His resignation?


Thx for the laughs!
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times infinity. Go crack open a history book and shut the hell up already.

Also, "no president since Abraham Lincoln". So do the other presidents who've been assassinated since then not count as examples of presidents who've been "treated worse"?
Uuuuh, i guess not.
Not to mention the intense spike in death threats against President Obama and his family!

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There's debating policy and then there's ignoring the greater evil.

I have zero interest in seeing Bernie Sanders elected president. Zero.

Well, almost zero. If it's Sanders or Trump, you better believe I'm voting for Bernie.

What worries those who are more towards the middle is that this won't be reciprocated by those on the left if the ultimate candidate ends up being someone who's closer to the middle.

It's not an irrational fear, either, based on 2016.
Yup, definitely concerned about that. Thinks jill s voters. (not the total reason she lost, other reasons too)

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I didn't say Clinton lost because of Sanders voters staying home. Or Johnson voters. Or Stein voters. Or those who voted for Trump because whatever, they're all the same.

But when you add all that up, and consider the crazy small margin of victory he had?

Yea, it fucking mattered.

The difference? Maybe not; but it wasn't inconsequential.


I don't believe this race will be as close because Independent voters have been able to see Trump for who he really is. But this is no time for fucking around.
This. Yeah, i think a bunch of independents have been moving away from him.
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This is why we have primaries. To figure this stuff out.

But if anyone thinks we have the luxury of flattering ourselves with some kind of vanity vote that is for anyone other than the Democratic nominee in order to underscore our own virtue, then go fuck yourself.
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Ohhhh, yippie !1111111

Don't think i' ve heard of him, or very vaguely.
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Today just keeps getting funnier and funnier.

The NIXON FOUNDATION just repudiated Roger Stone. I mean, how bad do you have to be for the Nixon Foundation to think you'd tarnish Nixon's image?

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This.



Ohhhh, yippie !1111111



Don't think i' ve heard of him, or very vaguely.

Kamala Harris was born in California. There’s no question about her citizenship.
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- fought to criminalize sex work even more than it already is
- deliberately makes no distinction between voluntary sex work and human trafficking, driving willing and voluntary sex workers into more dangerous aspects of the trade
- opposed legislation that would have required the DA's office to investigate all police shootings
- fought to keep people in jail even when there was strong evidence that they were innocent or wrongfully convicted
- refused to investigate blatant instances of racism and prejudice in the san francisco PD
- fought against reforms to solitary confinement policies in california prisons
- refused to allow a trans inmate to get gender reassignment surgery while in prison because reasons
- spent 20 grand advertising in black and latino neighbourhoods asking adults to snitch on truant school kids and threatened to throw truant children's parents in jail for their children's actions

she's been mildly better as a senator than as an attorney but holy shit her record in law enforcement is atrocious and yes i would absolutely assume (as would most people) that is the record of a republican if i didn't know better. she's basically a cop who now claims to have changed her ways.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...cop-prosecutor
These actions are troubling to me. have to look into that.
Has she changed on some/all of these issues, now that she' s been Senator and surrounded by people with more various views? Hopefully interviewers will bring some of this up. I like her, want to hear more of her views, and Senate votes, etc.

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She was not a progressive prosecutor (I don’t know that such a thing exists to be honest). In terms of prosecutors she was about middle of the road. If that alone is disqualifying to some people, fine. But criminal justice is just one issue of many. If we’re disqualifying Dems on single issues then how many are out already? Biden and Bernie for sure.
If a progressive prosecutor does not exist, what would consider a moderate prosecutor?

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The Medicare for all would be great theme.

But what happens if a dem gets in and doesn’t get it passed? Much like Obamacare losing the public option

Will the left still support this candidate in the next cycle ? Will midterms swing to the gop again, or the MAGA party is what it should be called now

I’m fine with whatever (legal) it takes to get a dem back into the WH, but we have to still keep up the fight for congress and state races
Mid-term and State races must be taken waaay more seriously by more people. I think some presidential-election-only voters got a very rude awakening.
(been voting since '71 at 18, hardly missed any midterm, off year elections and never a presidential one)

Think Medicare for all would be a good issue, if it can be presented in a more concrete, detailed way.
(tho maybe we' d still need a good catch phrase- as it ' s been said Republicans tend to use broad easy one, while we Dems tend to nuance not so easily boiled down.

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The results of the 2018 election were due to the Democrats winning areas like Orange County, whichbis now almost entirely blue (if not totally). The base absolutely needs to turn out, but you win when you win the suburbs.

You will not move non-voters to vote by running a mythical candidate who will turn them out suddenly. That candidate has never materialized. The non-voters didn’t turn out for Bradley in 2000. They didn’t for Bernie. And they won’t suddenly awaken from their slumber in 2020.
Not sure i fully agree. Ive heard a fair amount of people calking, texting etc into Public Radio about how in 2018 they weren't into, or had given up on politics but Trump's awfulness got them to vote!

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My hope is, as we saw in 2018, this is the issue that gets D’s to the polls. The right has abortion, and to a lesser extent guns. The left needs something, and access to health care may be it.
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The right is obsessed with AOC. Obsessed.

They fear her deadly political talents. And they should.

Let’s let her develop.

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re: AOC.

Calling her the left's version of Trump is over the top.

She does need to prove that she's more than an agitator. Can she legislate? Is she going to be able to bring people together?

She doesn't have to assimilate or change her ideals - but alienating those who she'll need job her side to actually get something done isn't exactly winning strategy.

re: Dave's last point.

This is the only time you'll ever see me agreeing to even consider a candidate who would even mention something like, oh, a 75% tax rate. So have at it
Well, well.
There was a great fb post from someone saying let me tell what it was like in the 1960's (maybe 50's as wel!?) when we had higher taxes: we built roads ,school, social programs etc.

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Who wants a government shutdown of the US? Putin

that's the beginning and the end.
No doubt, about Vladdy ; but right-wing Republicans and Conservatives have wanted to slash big government, the social safety net since FDR, LBJ ec.
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Roger Stone is going to be on live with Chris Cuomo tonight. Should be good tv, he's such a clown.
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So ... we aren’t suffering, but we are looking at a second paycheck held hostage by the President. I also worry about the psychological toll this is starting to take on federal workers. They really are stuck, and there really is no end in sight. Two weeks ago no one thought this would go on for two more weeks, yet here we are. It’s the uncharted territory that’s so scary — the current resident of the Oval Office is crazy enough to hold out indefinitely, and as nerve wracking as this is, were Pelosi to cave all that would do would be to embolden him to do this every time he wants a new toy that won’t ever get passed through Congress. Holding steady now should hopefully prevent this in the future.
Well, we now have the gov't up again for a while at least.

(can we impeach him within 2 weeks, and convict him by 3 days after that!?!?
No?? 😭 ),

Glad you' ll get your checks (soon!!!).
Public Radio has done a great job covering various federal employees difficult, and even pretty terrifying potential circumstances . They've also covered
the many acts of generosity by people etc.
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Roger Stone was arrested this morning. This seems potentially big.
I heard there were a bunch of people chanting "lock him up! "
A great start to my day!

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Question of the day - does Trump reopen the government to change the news coverage?
Well, even so...
lots of (?temporary relieved sighs! )

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On a serious note. Not sure why no one covering Stone's little display outside the courthouse isn't really digging into the statement of:
I won't testify against the president because i would have to bare false witness (aka - lie)

ummmm... what??
yeah, that was... weird. ( i guess that he ' s well off enough that 30 pieces of silver won't do it
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This has been a fantastic Friday!

Woke up and the first thing I saw was Roger Stone was arrested (AND there was video)! My boss buys me a delicious iced mocha. Then Trump is humiliated by Nancy "Nancy" Pelosi! And later today we get birthday cake! It's just too much.

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The obsession of women tied up with tape is really weird.

Also he’s going to do this all over again in three weeks
Oh, that women/tape stuff was...... fecking eeewwww, creepy!

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Can you imagine if they went with some freshman Congressperson??
While i think eventuality a younger person should take her now was/is not the time!

Can' t wait to see Stone led out on TV news!
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Kamala Harris was born in California. There’s no question about her citizenship.
Uh, i was being sarcastic; comment IF you replying to my "yippie" (hence the string of 1's ) If not , and just staging her birth place then ignore.
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Today just keeps getting funnier and funnier.

The NIXON FOUNDATION just repudiated Roger Stone. I mean, how bad do you have to be for the Nixon Foundation to think you'd tarnish Nixon's image?

Omg, tjc99!

If i' d been drinking something..... out the nose it' d go!
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