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Old 01-04-2019, 03:10 PM   #741
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Lol wait until the broke ass Trump voters counting on their tax refund feel the full extent of his stubbornness and his administration's rank incompetence. Sure, I'd like my refund too, but I can wait a bit if it means this shutdown starts impacting his supporters in a meaningful way.

Guys, the economy is doing great! Everything is fine! All the winning is getting boring!
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Old 01-04-2019, 04:31 PM   #744
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I am so tired of all the winning. So tired of having such a mature intelligent President. It's exhausting.
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Old 01-04-2019, 04:48 PM   #746
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I think Benghazi took over 3 1/2 years before it wrapped up (not the house investigations). No indictments

Watergate took close to 5 years. No indictments due to Nixon resigning

Mueller has been at it since May 2017. I fully expect he won’t finish until late 2019....what are we up to right now, 33 indictments ?
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Mueller has been at it since May 2017. I fully expect he won’t finish until late 2019....what are we up to right now, 33 indictments ?
But...but...it's totally a nothingburger! I mean, sure, a bunch of people connected to Trump have been arrested, and his own pal Cohen said flat out that he did all his criminal stuff at Trump's behest, but that doesn't prove anything!

Honestly, I can't imagine what it must be like to live that deep in denial.
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Trump is always saying he wants to keep the US safe. TSA agents are calling in sick because they're not getting paid. So much for safety. Winning!
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The TSA thing happened last time there was a shutdown as well, under Obama. It's the most predictable part of this entire thing, and will only get worse as time goes on.

And we're doing this over a useless physical object on the southern border, which we were told would be paid for by Mexico.

So. Much. Winning.
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his winning could power 5 of the biggest cities in the USA for a year!!!!111111





NOT!


(Just in case u weren't sure)

Ugh, I need more curse words from more languages for this wreck of a human being.


Just caught Rachel M on that extension of Mueller's grand jury in DC.
It's (more) Mueller Time!
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his winning could power 5 of the biggest cities in the USA for a year!!!!111111





NOT!


(Just in case u weren't sure)

Ugh, I need more curse words from more languages for this wreck of a human being.


Just caught Rachel M on that extension of Mueller's grand jury in DC.
It's (more) Mueller Time!
I can teach you a few bad words in Spanish if you like!!
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Man accused of killing California police officer entered U.S. through Arizona border

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ga/2439580002/

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The Stanislaus County Sheriff’s Department announced in a news conference Friday that Gustavo Perez Arriaga, 32, was arrested on a murder warrant at a home near Bakersfield, California, on Friday following a statewide manhunt.

Officials said he was trying to escape to Mexico, where he lived before he illegally entered the United States.

Arriaga is accused of shooting and killing Cpl. Ronil Singh on Wednesday during a traffic stop.

....Christianson called his officer's death preventable and blamed sanctuary cities for protecting Arriaga.

....He criticized the state's sanctuary city policies, which limit the cooperation between local law enforcement and federal immigration authorities.

The law prevented authorities from reporting Arriaga to U.S. immigration officials for two previous drunken driving arrests, the sheriff said.
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Five others — including his 34-year-old brother, Conrado Virgen Mendoza and 32-year-old co-worker Erik Razo Quiroz,— were also arrested for lying to police. Officials said both men were in the country illegally.

Singh immigrated to the United States from Fiji. He joined Newman's 12-officer police force in 2011. He was the first officer to be killed in the line of duty in the department's history. He left behind a wife and a 5-month-old son.
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Oh my God! Your anecdotal example has convinced me that Trump is right! We need a wall to keep out the murderers and rapists! The overwhelming statistics that most illegal immigrants are upstanding citizens, and/or that moat of them are those who overstay their visa and not actually crossing the border must be #fakenews.

Thank you for clearing my head. Here I thought you were a racist tool.
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Oh my God! Your anecdotal example has convinced me that Trump is right! We need a wall to keep out the murderers and rapists! The overwhelming statistics that most illegal immigrants are upstanding citizens, and/or that moat of them are those who overstay their visa and not actually crossing the border must be #fakenews.

Thank you for clearing my head. Here I thought you were a racist tool.
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A couple national news stories in which people who came here illegally murdered people (the case Bluer White shared, and the one with the young woman here in Iowa being murdered last summer).

Republicans: We need a wall right now! We need to do everything imaginable to try and keep these people from coming in here and murdering our citizens! We'd be willing to change our Constitutional rights if we have to in order to try and stop this invasion!

Meanwhile...

Multiple mass shootings committed by people who were born and raised within the States over the past few years, one of which included the massacre of 20 young children.

Republicans: Well, y'know, we can't just go around changing all our laws because of this. This is clearly just a mental health issue, we don't need to do anything about people's access to guns and we have the Constitution to think about and we gotta protect people's Second Amendment rights and everything. I mean, you can put all the laws in place you want to try and stop this, criminals aren't gonna follow them. These laws will just screw over the law-abiding citizens in the end anyway. Thoughts and prayers, though.
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Two things these last few posts have shown us, again, is that some of you still think we have to change the Constitution to keep illegal immigrants out of the U.S., and some of you still think illegal is a race.

The Constitution is for Americans, legal American citizens. It’s a good document, you should read it sometime.

BTW, what do you think would happen if you illegally entered any other country on the planet? Yeah, it’s not good.

Also, just a reminder we do have a legal immigration process. But screw all those people doing it the right way, and let other people jump the line because that’s what you’re told to think.

And while you pull up your liberal talking point about seeking asylum, yup, we have laws for that too, and it’s not storming the border.

Finally, it doesn’t matter if it’s only ONE illegal immigrant who kills or rapes someone (it’s not), how would you feel if your child or loved one was murdered by someone who didn’t even belong here, and may not have been if our borders hadn’t been a porous sieve for 20 years?

Rinse, repeat. Here it comes......

Racist!
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Two things these last few posts have shown us, again, is that some of you still think we have to change the Constitution to keep illegal immigrants out of the U.S.
Trump's talked in the past about wanting to change the Constitutional law that would allow for birthright citizenship. That's where we're getting that from.

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...uh...what? No?

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Finally, it doesn’t matter if it’s only ONE illegal immigrant who kills or rapes someone (it’s not), how would you feel if your child or loved one was murdered by someone who didn’t even belong here, and may not have been if our borders hadn’t been a porous sieve for 20 years?
I would be horrified, devastated, and would absolutely want that person punished for the crime.

I would not, however, use that as an opportunity to stereotype illegal immigrants in general as violent criminals and push some boogeyman theory about them coming to kill our citizens. I would not use that as justification for a stupid border wall that I know full well would do absolutely nothing to stop other people from crossing the border, or solve our crime problem, or other issues of that sort (because, see, those are complex issues, and have a lot of factors involved, so they require complex, long-term, detailed solutions). Plenty of people have come here illegally and haven't committed murder, or any other violent crimes for that matter, after all. Why should they get blamed for the murderous actions of a small handful of people?

And none of your post addresses the GOP's hypocrisy in how they're willing to go all out with laws to try and stop illegal immigrants, but when it comes to the issue of mass shootings, suddenly they just can't seem to really be bothered to do anything of any significance, because, as they keep saying, "You can pass all the laws you want, criminals won't obey them." Couldn't that same argument be made for illegal immigrants? If the idea is that mass shooters won't follow any laws we pass to try and keep them from getting guns and committing crimes, what makes you think illegal immigrants who are violent will follow any laws we pass to stop them from coming here and committing crimes?

But hey, let's turn your hypothetical scenario back on you. How would you feel if your child was murdered in a school shooting by somebody who had easy access to a gun because the laws didn't do anything to try and keep him from getting one, or he wasn't getting the proper treatment necessary to keep him from hurting other people, or things of that sort?
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Two things these last few posts have shown us, again, is that some of you still think we have to change the Constitution to keep illegal immigrants out of the U.S., and some of you still think illegal is a race.

The Constitution is for Americans, legal American citizens. It’s a good document, you should read it sometime.
If you have read the constitution, you’d know its language intentionally avoids the use of “citizen” and in place routinely uses “person,” and it is understood in legal realms that the US constitution applies to anyone on US soil. Now, it does apply to citizens abroad when with respects to interaction with the United States.

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BTW, what do you think would happen if you illegally entered any other country on the planet? Yeah, it’s not good.
If you illegally enter most first world countries, it’s fairly similar to the United States. A dose of hardship, a dose of government anti-immigration, a dose of government welfare, a dose of endured prejudice, and a slim chance at achieving citizenship.

If you illegally enter a third world country and manage to get away with it, probably nobody gives a shit. After all, these are the countries where everyone is trying to get away from.

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Also, just a reminder we do have a legal immigration process. But screw all those people doing it the right way, and let other people jump the line because that’s what you’re told to think.
There’s something to be said about why people illegally immigrate to western countries. They’re poor as shit and we have opportunity for them that they don’t have in their country. And at that - they’re not getting in legally. The system is hard to get in for a reason. Everyone wants in and if you let that happen all at once, it’s a crisis on many fronts. But poor people from third world countries are stuck to a raffle where the odds are against them. Border security is a necessity to stop illegal immigration flux (a density over time), this is true. But bringing illegal immigration flux to zero isn’t necessary.

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And while you pull up your liberal talking point about seeking asylum, yup, we have laws for that too, and it’s not storming the border.
Uh, actually this is pretty wrong. Asylum claims ARE mads at the border. At the borders in airports, and yes, the land borders, and the ports. They’re made directly to CBP.


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Finally, it doesn’t matter if it’s only ONE illegal immigrant who kills or rapes someone (it’s not), how would you feel if your child or loved one was murdered by someone who didn’t even belong here, and may not have been if our borders hadn’t been a porous sieve for 20 years?

Rinse, repeat. Here it comes......

Racist!

It’d feel shitty. How would you feel if your kindergartener was mowed down by an assault rifle? How would you feel if your kid was murdered by a legal immigrant? I bet there are numbers on that. How about a naturally born citizen? I bet there are numbers on that.
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