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Old 12-05-2018, 04:01 PM   #321
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Giuliani is like a ghoul who wandered in from a silent movie in the 20s and he's now roaming around like a zombie.

Again, an entire day of everyone in the media marvelling how dignified and well-behaved the Bushes are. No, that's really most people. The fact that the orange menace has normalized the worst boorishness is a stain upon us all.
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Old 12-05-2018, 06:25 PM   #322
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When Dick Cheney thinks you're bad....


When Dick Cheney thinks you’re bad...

Who cares, Dick Cheney is a piece of shit.
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On world AIDS day, we should also remember that George HW did nothing about it and people died.
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Midterms are over now.

Do you have a top two or three Democratic presidential candidates?
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Do you have a top two or three Democratic presidential candidates?


Hilary Clinton with questionable assistance from the Iranian government.

For the lolz.
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Old 12-05-2018, 07:52 PM   #325
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Midterms are over now.

Do you have a top two or three Democratic presidential candidates?
Do you have a top two or three Republican presidential candidates or are you sticking with the current embarrassment in office?
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Old 12-05-2018, 08:59 PM   #326
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Midterms are over now.

Do you have a top two or three Democratic presidential candidates?
I'd be happy to vote for Kamala Harris, Beto O'Rourke or Cory Booker. I just don't want to see Bernie, Hillary or Joe Biden run again.
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There will be at least one woman on the Democratic ticket. You can put good money on it.

Of the frontrunners/those appearing to run, I think Kamala Harris is probably the one with the best odds. The others all have issues (Elizabeth Warren is arguably too old, too professorial, and better in a Cabinet sort of position, Amy Klobuchar is terrible on the stump and uninspiring generally in terms of public speaking, Gillibrand I've never liked much as she comes across as somebody who will go whichever way the wind blows). I don't believe Hillary will run again so I'm not even bothering there.

I don't know that I'm sold on O'Rourke but he and Harris would make the most attractive ticket in history, which doesn't matter at all except that they'd be running against the ugliest duo in history (inside and out) so there's that to entertain us.
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Old 12-05-2018, 09:30 PM   #328
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I would LOVE to see a woman take the nomination, and win. It's way past time.

But yeah, if O'Rourke or Booker ran, I'd vote for them, too. I think O'Rourke in particular could do a great job of rallying voters. And I'd be interested to see if any other people who haven't yet been mentioned or considered decide to throw their hats into the ring as time goes on, too.
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Kaine/Menendez 2020
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Plot twist: Trump as a Democrat
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Midterms are over now.



Do you have a top two or three Democratic presidential candidates?


I don’t.

I really don’t.
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Do you have a top two or three Republican presidential candidates or are you sticking with the current embarrassment in office?
Ehh, Kasich might've done a good job in Washington but I think he missed his shot. He could go third party for '20 but that won't be a winner.


I'd like to hear Mike Bloomberg's ideas on the D side.
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Not to play identity politics but the Dems i think do need someone who’s younger and a minority.

I think a Harris and Beto ticket would be decent. Beto and Harris are fighters. Both seem to have some of the progressive ideals that Bernie tapped into, but they care more about everyone versus rural white people.

Biden is going to run. It’ll be interesting to see if “establishment” wins out again over a younger ticket
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My fear isn’t that the Dems don’t have someone to compete in 2020

It’s the GOP will have rigged the system and elections that it doesn’t matter

NC, WI, MI are all examples of how the GOP hate democracy. Expect more of this

And why the fake news media isn’t making this their top story is beyond belief.
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i don't think a better picture has ever been taken that shows so much about the times we live in today than this one taken over the weekend in Paris...


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Also, for the lulz

https://twitter.com/ScottMStedman/st...735365120?s=19
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"sure, he's responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths, and ignoring the aids crisis, and creating the crack cocaine epidemic to fund an illegal covert war, and installing fascist dictators, and latin america is still to this day recovering from the damage he did there, but he wasnt a big meanie to people like trump is so we should all admire and respect him and wish for more politicians like that"

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I get what you're saying, and in no way do I think we should ignore these things... but you could pull out a list of horrible things done under the watch of every single president.
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it's almost as if a system that essentially forces its leaders to commit various atrocities to maintain its power is a giant morally bankrupt stain on humanity that ought to be destroyed, or something.
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For those of you keeping score, it's December 6 and the Dow is in negative territory for the year again. #TrumpBump
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NC, WI, MI are all examples of how the GOP hate democracy. Expect more of this
What’s going on in those 3 spots?
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