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Old 07-27-2018, 09:52 AM   #561
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The issue is that currently economic growth is surging.

It won't last, and we're headed head straight into a hurricane once again... but it's hard to convince the voting public that this surge in growth is a bad thing.
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Old 07-27-2018, 10:23 AM   #562
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The issue is that currently economic growth is surging.

It won't last, and we're headed head straight into a hurricane once again... but it's hard to convince the voting public that this surge in growth is a bad thing.
Kind of reminds me how in the 90s, Democrats didn't care about all the Clinton scandals because the economy was doing great back then.

For the midterms, expect to see nothing really change because the economy is doing well. Even CNN admitted today, it is partly because of Trump.
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I'll put my Hollywood claim to fame as "poet".
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They need a solid more moderate candidate.
Careful. You'll be told that America doesn't want someone in the middle. They want socialism!!
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Apparently two guys dressed as Russian soldiers and holding Russian flags are guarding Trump’s star on the Walk of Fame today.

Sometimes, America still does us proud.
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Starting to get the sense that this Trump guy is a little shady
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Careful. You'll be told that America doesn't want someone in the middle. They want socialism!!
that's a funny joke if you ignore the fact that an unknown socialist just successfully primaried one of the most senior establishment democrats.
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that's a funny joke if you ignore the fact that an unknown socialist just successfully primaried one of the most senior establishment democrats.
That's a funny observation, if you ignore the fact that a young, progressive Latina woman just successfully primaried an old white guy in a districts that is very Democratic, young and with a large percentage of Hispanic people.
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so she won only because of her age and race, huh?
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She won because she was the right person for that District.

This is literally all anybody is saying. Conservative Democrats can win in western PA. Latina socialists can win in Queens. You get nothing progressive if you don’t have the seats in Congress. Get the seats in Congress.
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Guys, both of your points can be factors.
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Anyone but the fucking GOP. They’ve been exposed for what a lot of us have known for a while. A white nationalist party

I’ll agree there is a lot of anger towards any sort of “establishment” candidates. The government has let us down but let’s not put it all on them. We’re fucking idiots too.

The difference it seems from “progressives” and then whatever you want to call us other Democrats is that we would have voted for Bernie (or this chick) versus Trump.

I don’t need my candidate to be pure and uncompromising.

I want liberal social issues
I want liberal policies WITH a solid plan to pay for them (like reducing our military budget for starters)

There’s never going to be a perfect candidate. Everyone has skeletons, especially now when something you said or joked about 10 years ago can cause you to lose your job or drop out of a race. But that’s another topic

Back to the subject, with the heat on Trump me thinks war with Iran comes sooner than later
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Even conservative voices like CNBC are starting to get worried about what Trump is doing...

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Officials from previous administrations say the web of longstanding global relationships has staying power.

“That webbing is dense, and it can sustain a lot of damage,” said Kori Schake, a former national security aide to President George W. Bush who now helps run the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London. “This is not the first time there are troubles in the trans-Atlantic relationship.”

But Schake added, “This is the first time that a president of the United States did not appear to believe in the liberal order.”

But the global order was under strain even before Trump’s presidency. Now, some fear it has already been damaged too much.

“Things will not be OK,” conservative foreign policy expert Robert Kagan wrote recently in The Washington Post. “The world crisis is upon us.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/26/dona...rld-order.html
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Even conservative voices like CNBC

🤨 since when was CNBC a “conservative voice”?
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������ since when was CNBC a “conservative voice”?
Usually business news outlets tend to be fiscally conservative, and Republican leaning. WSJ for example. And I believe a CNBC commentator was the one who started the Tea Party because he didn't like Obama's"overspending".
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since when was CNBC a “conservative voice”?
Yeah I don't think I'd label an NBC subsidiary as conservative.
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She won because she was the right person for that District.

This is literally all anybody is saying. Conservative Democrats can win in western PA. Latina socialists can win in Queens. You get nothing progressive if you don’t have the seats in Congress. Get the seats in Congress.
for fucks sake yes.

Stop the infighting and just take back Congress.
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Usually business news outlets tend to be fiscally conservative, and Republican leaning. WSJ for example. And I believe a CNBC commentator was the one who started the Tea Party because he didn't like Obama's"overspending".


We desperately need to take away the image that being economically capitalistic equates to conservativism. There is no direct relationship between social and economic views. We have allowed tribalism to equate them.

CNBC is a consumer network. It has little to say about politics and federalism or anti-federalism.

Overall, when that network does get political, I would say they’re center-left.
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We desperately need to take away the image that being economically capitalistic equates to conservativism. There is no direct relationship between social and economic views. We have allowed tribalism to equate them.

CNBC is a consumer network. It has little to say about politics and federalism or anti-federalism.

Overall, when that network does get political, I would say they’re center-left.
Fucking A to this, too
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Apparently two guys dressed as Russian soldiers and holding Russian flags are guarding Trump’s star on the Walk of Fame today.

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It was for a bit on Jimmy Kimmel.

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