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Old 07-17-2018, 07:47 PM   #421
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Just gonna leave this here...

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/muell...185408014.html

This trial sounds like it could get veeeeery interesting.
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Why wouldn't they have their shots already?
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Old 07-17-2018, 10:46 PM   #423
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Trump gets to nuke Iran

Russia gets to fully invade Ukraine and other former USSR states

NATO is no more
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At this same point of Obama's presidency, this was the big controversy

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love her

https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/...hes-absolutely

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on the first day of the Trump visit, the Queen wore a simple green brooch that was given to her by the Obamas to signify their friendship. On the second day, she wore a brooch given to her by Canada, a country with which Trump is less than pleased at the moment (also, it was in the shape of a snowflake, a classic Trump term for people who disagree with him.) And, for the last day, she chose a brooch she wore to the funeral of her father, so not one associated with happiness and joy. Queen’s brooches: 3. Trump: 0.
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At this same point of Obama's presidency, this was the big controversy

i think the whole world misses him
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So Trump takes back what he said yesterday

Also mentions collaborations with Russia but won’t state what they are or involve (would guess sanctions being dropped )

Also the Russian NRA chick was invited to the national prayer breakfast.

These guys are so fucked haha. Assuming what’s left of our checks and balances hold up
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They all deserve to be thrown out and put in jail. And I don't mean some fancy white collar style type of place, either. I know I've said before that I wasn't expecting Trump to actually serve jail time after all is said and done, but no. He absolutely MUST go to jail. He NEEDS to see actual, serious consequences for the shit he's put all of us through.
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So apparently Trump doesn't know the difference between "yes" and "no." No wonder he doesn't think he has sexually assaulted anyone.
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Just gonna leave this here...

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/muell...185408014.html

This trial sounds like it could get veeeeery interesting.
Yeah they’ve got a story to tell.
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Dijon? TRAITOR!
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Epic troll by the Queen. Bravo.💛💚💙💜 When Trump was walking in front of her she should have kicked him in the butt.
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When Trump was walking in front of her she should have kicked him in the butt.
I imagine there's quite a few world leaders/figures out there who'd love to do just that right about now.
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I lost my keys to my house Sat night cso I actually didn't get to even hear any thing till I was at my sib's Sunday night (got key copies Mon) when we watched some she'd MSNBC stuff.


I figured this summit was going to be on the bad side ...


... but holy shite not that bad!
Half-imbelcelic, kow-towing, kick our REAL allies down, constant fucking LIAR!!!

(tell us how you really feel, dbl )

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We need another "At long last, have you left no sense of decency?" moment, served to Trump and his cronies' faces.
Omg, yes.

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no, it doesn't. even at the height of the cold war, anyone actively assisting the USSR was charged with espionage, not treason, because there was no declaration or active state of war. if the rosenbergs had taken the nuclear secrets they gave to the soviets and instead handed them to the nazis, that would be treason.

but in any case, saying nice things about the enemy and admiring them isn't treason, even in war time. you have to physically do something to aid the enemy's war effort for it to be treasonous and not just disloyal.

i'm talking about the legal standard, of course the standard for what the public considers "treason" is not nearly as strict.

"High Crimes" , then?

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He could shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue and people would still support him.
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Anyone think the point of this summit was for Putin to show the world he’s boss ?

What better way to show you’re the most powerful figure in the world than to call the POTUS your puppet
Some think it was more like giving Putin a "legitimate" world stage presence.

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But but but Hillary, but but Obama, but but the Easter bunny!
Thanks , I needed that!

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Epic troll by the Queen. Bravo. When Trump was walking in front of her she should have kicked him in the butt.
oh, god, thanks, too for another laff, amidst this mayhem, misery, and fear!

Yes, just before I arrived here, I saw the commentary on The Queen's (Obama & Michell's gift) broach!
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Then I woke up late Tues just in time to hear the public radio person before his show ended continuing a stunned reaction, to something I hadn't heard what it was then.

Turned out to be drumph's "would"/" wouldn't" retraction.
Frak him, effing liar!

Now, mostly caught up. But some interesting thing to mention tomorrow

Ok still have a bit of battery

on mic daily , they pointed out that Putin mentioned stuff that was part of that meeting at Trump Tower in 2016
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Just gonna leave this here...

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/muell...185408014.html

This trial sounds like it could get veeeeery interesting.
Ooo had not heard this
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Omg, yes.
Found out, by the way, while reading up a little more on Welch, that he was from my home state of Iowa. I hadn't known that before . That makes me rather proud.

Sounded like a pretty badass guy in general, if his Wiki entry's anything to go by:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_N._Welch
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Yet another example of our horrifying foreign policy. The Democrats have continued to pry the door open and then allow the Republicans to kick it in repeatedly. Both parties have terrifying records on this front, and the military industrial complex is seemingly the only institution completely and totally immune from changes of power in this country.

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Kareem now had no doubt he was on America’s infamous “Kill List.” Most Americans don’t even know we have such a thing. We do. Officially, it goes by the ghoulish bureaucratic euphemism “Disposition Matrix.”

Seemingly conceived in the Obama years, the lethal list – about which little is known outside a few leaks and court pleadings – appears to sort people into targeting for capture, interrogation, or assassination by drone. It was run by a star-chamber of two-dozen security officials and the president. According to a 2012 New York Times report, they met once a week to decide which targets around the world lived or died.

These meetings became known as “Terror Tuesdays.”

As Obama was preparing to leave office, candidate Donald Trump was promising to jack up the number of bombings in the Middle East. “You have to take out their families,” he said.

It’s one of the few promises he’s fulfilled. Reports vary, but some estimate that Trump has upped the pace of drone attacks by about four or five times the Obama rate, which itself was 10 times the rate of Bush.

We kill suspects whose names we know, and whose names we don’t; we kill the guilty and the not guilty; we kill men, but also women and children; we kill by day and by night; we fire missiles at confirmed visual targets, but also at cellphone numbers we hope belong to targets.

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The case, still unresolved more than a year later, has awesome implications not just for Kareem but for all Americans – all people everywhere, for that matter.

It’s not a stretch to say that it’s one of the most important lawsuits to ever cross the desk of a federal judge. The core of the Bill of Rights is in play, and a wrong result could formalize a slide into authoritarianism that began long ago, but accelerated after 9/11.

Since that day, we have given presidents enormous power – to make war, to torture, to detain indefinitely – and our entire legal system has been transformed on a variety of fronts, placing huge questions about illegal searches, warrantless arrest, indefinite detention, torture and other matters behind an impenetrable wall of secrecy, outside the reach of courts.

And yet, nobody is paying attention. While America obsesses over Russia, Stormy Daniels and Kim Jong-Un, almost no one is covering Kareem’s trial. His race-against-time effort to escape the American killing machine is too surreal, even in the Trump era. But it’s also a potentially devastating last-straw moment in the history of America’s recent dystopian slide, with the executive branch asking for the ultimate in dictatorial powers: the right to kill even its own citizens without having to explain itself.
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