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Old 06-19-2018, 10:40 PM   #821
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Pardon me for being the thread's reporter (then again, I used to be a journalist in a past life)

But in case some of you are wondering about the toddlers and infants, they have their own shelter. Isn't that disgusting? https://apnews.com/dc0c9a5134d14862ba7c7ad9a811160e

Here's a clip of Rachel Maddow tearing up on live TV about it: https://www.facebook.com/shaunking/v...2130778159165/

OK, fine, they are illegal. But why separate families? Why can't you at least keep the families together? Why can't the children be given to relatives here in the US? That girl in that audio clip asking to call her aunt? Did she speak to her aunt? Did she see her aunt? Was she allowed to go with her? I guess not!

This is a time that will be remembered when America lost its heart...yet again.
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I never thought in my wildest dreams that I would see the day that the USA did this to children. I didn’t think it was even possible. This is heart breaking. I sincerely hope this marks the beginning of the end for this administration. Kids are going to die if they are kept in 106 degree weather in tents in Texas. When will enough be enough? The school shootings are bad enough because the government is not doing enough to protect the children, but this is the damned government that is going to kill these children. Will people of both sides of the isle FINALY say enough is enough if children start to die in camps? Or will they continue to blame each other and let this shit horror show go on??
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Old 06-19-2018, 10:59 PM   #823
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Will people of both sides of the isle FINALY say enough is enough if children start to die in camps? Or will they continue to blame each other and let this shit horror show go on??
Sadly, I think it is the latter. God Bless America
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Old 06-19-2018, 11:07 PM   #824
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Sadly, I think it is the latter. God Bless America
Sadly I think you are correct. But if children start to die due to the conditions they are put under, this is almost bordering on the same type of war crimes the USA and other nationns have faught so hard in the past to stop or prevent in other countries. If children die because of this something has to give. It has to be the end of this administration.
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Old 06-19-2018, 11:27 PM   #825
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It's time for everyone in America with a soul to take a knee.
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I’m sure this will be the issue to convince all those non-voters out there to finally, FINALLY vote.
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Old 06-20-2018, 02:59 AM   #827
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they're testing the bounds to see how much they can get away with - this has to stop, there has to be civil disobedience, massive protests, etc

or you will all be fucked

it's quite scary to see
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OK, fine, they are illegal. But why separate families? Why can't you at least keep the families together? Why can't the children be given to relatives here in the US?
Because big boy wants a wall.
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Phils, let's say Open Borders the way you see it becomes politically feasible.

What are the two biggest issues in the transition to open borders, and how are they fixed?
Systemic racism and the lack of a social safety net. The latter is fixed the same way it's fixed now. The former is not fixed in any simple, easy way, but a great start would be significant reform of the criminal justice system. Abolishing ICE, demilitarizing the police force, and ceasing foreign intervention are great starting points.
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The GOP is evil and has nothing to offer. Compromising with them in 2018 is compromising your morals. They are immoral, period.
i've argued against this in the past - but i can't anymore.

i believe that there are fragments of what was once the republican party left that are good and moral people, and i think an eventual split of the traditional democratic party into two - left leaning and centrist - may be the way to go. and i absolutely hold strong that compromise is a good thing and something that is desperately needed in our nation's politics.

but you can not compromise with wrong.

the GOP has sold their soul. they know this man and his policies are a moral abomination; they know they have the power to end this madness, and they do nothing. they are complicit in every way to what's going on in this country. the party of lincoln is now a party of blatant racism and evil.

this isn't "blah blah blah echo chamber blah blah blah". this is reality.

stand up to this man who's destroying whatever shred of respectability the party had left, and our nation's moral compass at the same time, or own your place on the wrong side of history forever.
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Because big boy wants a wall.
That I know. I was just ranting at that point.
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Politics is the practice of who gets what, compromise isn't really part of that unless you think of it as sport. Which many people do, but that ignores the reality.

Now, that's not to say politics is inherently selfish. Again, that's only if you think of it as sport and think saying compromise is bad is akin to saying "I want to win everything and you to lose everything." I only want the other side to lose all elections. I still want them all to have free healthcare and a living wage. The difference is that they don't.
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So DHS Secretary Nielsen decides eating at a Mexican restaurant in Washington might be a good idea after that train wreck of a press conference.

A.Mexican.restaurant. MEXICAN.

Did she expect no one to notice her there? Thankfully she was noticed and heckled out of the restaurant.
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Looks like Big Boy blinked.
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/19/polit...omp/index.html

At first I thought there is no way he said that but it's clear in the video. Bigger pos than Trump ? Equal?
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At first I thought there is no way he said that but it's clear in the video. Bigger pos than Trump ? Equal?
Trump's $$ allowed him to surround himself with enablers and yes-men his whole life so it's no wonder he turned out to be a total narcissist.

Not sure what Corey's "excuse" is. Therefore, he's just a plain, old asshole.
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