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Old 05-25-2018, 09:26 PM   #441
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-so...231215529.html

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The FBI has obtained secret wiretaps collected by Spanish police of conversations involving Alexander Torshin, a deputy governor of Russia’s Central Bank who has forged close ties with U.S. lawmakers and the National Rifle Association, that led to a meeting with Donald Trump Jr. during the gun lobby’s annual convention in Louisville, Ky., in May 2016, a top Spanish prosecutor said Friday.

José Grinda, who has spearheaded investigations into Spanish organized crime, said that bureau officials in recent months requested and were provided transcripts of wiretapped conversations between Torshin and Alexander Romanov, a convicted Russian money launderer. On the wiretaps, Romanov refers to Torshin as “El Padrino,” the godfather.

“Just a few months ago, the wiretaps of these telephone conversations were given to the FBI,” Grinda said in response to a question from Yahoo News during a talk he gave at the Hudson Institute, a conservative think tank in Washington. Asked if he was concerned about Torshin’s meetings with Donald Trump Jr. and other American political figures, Grinda replied: “Mr. Trump’s son should be concerned.”
Nope. Nothing suspicious and shady going on here. Nuh-uh.
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Old 05-26-2018, 04:37 AM   #442
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I think they've given up on any sort of reasonable defense and are now focused on probing that Bill Belichick video taped the campaign illegally or something. Probably cost em a few draft picks.

#spygate
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Old 05-26-2018, 10:37 PM   #443
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Thanks, ML!

I hadn't heard that.

And now back to the Nashville concert!
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this is illegal.

he has since deleted the tweet (also illegal).
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Oh, for fuck's sake, seriously?

God, what an asshole.
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season 2 of the Roseanne reboot just got cancelled.

because Roseanne tweeted some vile, racist shit.

what is it about Trump supporters and racism?
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season 2 of the Roseanne reboot just got cancelled.

because Roseanne tweeted some vile, racist shit.

what is it about Trump supporters and racism?
I can't find it, but somebody on Twitter wrote that ABC was looking to portray the average Trump voter, and that's what they got.
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season 2 of the Roseanne reboot just got cancelled.

because Roseanne tweeted some vile, racist shit.

what is it about Trump supporters and racism?
I honestly have yet to have a single conversation with a Trump supporter that didn't end with them saying something racist (or sexist, or homophobic). I'm not exaggerating. Maybe there's the rare Trump supporter that isn't like that, I don't know, but I've yet to find them. At some point, people have to acknowledge the fact that yes, racism absolutely played a LARGE role in support for Trump. The very fact that people didn't seem to mind casting a vote for a guy who spent the past seven years fueling the birther conspiracy about Obama should be proof enough right there that racism was a factor.

As for Roseanne and the show itself, I like the rest of the cast, so I feel for them in regards to the cancellation, but yeah. Wise choice in the end. I do find it odd that ABC were willing to overlook some of her other horrid tweets up to this point, though, such as some of the shitty things she said and tweeted about the Parkland students.
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Give it a few more hours for Trump to threaten ABC
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Nah Trump will let this one slide; he probably thinks Roseanne Barr and Rosie O’Donnell are the same person.
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Give it a few more hours for Trump to threaten ABC
Maybe all the Trumplodytes will boycott Disney. Will sure make visiting the parks a lot nicer this summer.
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Gosh, if only Rosanne had shown us her true colors before today.
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Gosh, if only Rosanne had shown us her true colors before today.


What do you mean? Normally she’s got such great decorum!
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Lemme get this straight... the great hero of the crowd who won't watch NFL games because players take a knee during the anthem is a washed up sitcom star who spit on the ground after performing the worst rendition of the anthem ever?

god bless america man.
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Right? I never understood that, either. .

I'm struck by the comments I'm seeing from people out there who are complaining about Roseanne being fired for her conservative views. Like, do those people realize that in saying that they're basically implying the shitty things she's saying are things conservatives in general would agree with? 'Cause there's conservatives out there who I'm sure would take issue with that implication.

(To say nothing of the people who still fail to grasp what the First Amendment actually entails.)
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Right? I never understood that, either. .

I'm struck by the comments I'm seeing from people out there who are complaining about Roseanne being fired for her conservative views. Like, do those people realize that in saying that they're basically implying the shitty things she's saying are things conservatives in general would agree with? 'Cause there's conservatives out there who I'm sure would take issue with that implication.
an easy way to tell who's an idiot is to look at who's saying that she got fired for her conservative views. no, she got fired for her *racist* views. people who can't tell the difference should be avoided.
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I have no clue how we as a society reverse this tribalism and politics as sport.

Do we have to survive until another generation has passed and maybe the younger crowd gets a shot ?
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I have no clue how we as a society reverse this tribalism and politics as sport.

Do we have to survive until another generation has passed and maybe the younger crowd gets a shot ?


I used to think it might die with the Baby Boomers — their fault lines having sprung up over Vietnam. I saw Obama as a way to move beyond all that and bring us into the future.

But the racism we’ve seen disinhibited and wielded by Trump show that it’s passed down generation to generation, it’s a feature not a bug of being a conservative in 2018.
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What do you call someone who says racist things when they take drugs that disinhibition them?

A racist.
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fucking hell Kim Kardashian to meet Trump at White House to discuss prison reform and pardon power?

we're living in a parallel universe man, we need Doc and Marty to sort this shit out and fast
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