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Old 04-14-2018, 08:20 PM   #1001
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Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter with a half-million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. . . . This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.

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Old 04-14-2018, 08:37 PM   #1002
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Old 04-15-2018, 06:20 AM   #1003
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I'm more in the like phase with Ike.
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I guess she clarified it, will have to find out what that clarification was.

https://splinternews.com/sarah-hucka...ria-1825274250

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Old 04-15-2018, 04:33 PM   #1006
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Trump is having a total meltdown on Twitter about Comey. I would love to watch Trump watching that interview tonight.
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Everyone should be in jail

That’s his comeback to everything
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Stephanapolus (who I generally hate) is being pretty tough on Comey.

Good.

I’m happy for anything Comey can do to further the slam dunk obstruction charges, but fuck him.

If there is any individual responsible for this nightmare it’s him.
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Old 04-15-2018, 10:40 PM   #1011
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Yeah, I'm watching this, too, and it's rather interesting.

I tell you what, it's truly amazing how many people Trump's met with in this whole mess that he claims to "hardly know".
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Old 04-16-2018, 08:31 AM   #1012
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The best part of this whole Comey thing is the tribalism it reveals when watching Republicans and Democrats twist themselves into pretzels picking and choosing when he's being credible and ethical and when he's a liar and hack. No one really likes him at this point, but he's useful for advancing a political narrative for both sides, depending on the issue. But only just, and every comment about Comey has to start with a caveat.

Anyway, at least we know he thinks Trump has small hands now.
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The best part of this whole Comey thing is the tribalism it reveals when watching Republicans and Democrats twist themselves into pretzels picking and choosing when he's being credible and ethical and when he's a liar and hack. No one really likes him at this point, but he's useful for advancing a political narrative for both sides, depending on the issue. But only just, and every comment about Comey has to start with a caveat.

Anyway, at least we know he thinks Trump has small hands now.


Or is it that Comey is a complex person who has inserted himself in various places and can’t be simply summed up in one sentence? Perhaps nuance and caveats are exactly what are needed to accurately understand what happened, what is happening, and what will likely happen. Thst he’s neither good nor bad, that his decisions have multiple motivations, and that he’s covering his ass while also trying to do the right thing, to him, and that he’s made errors and misjudgments.
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Well of course. We're all complex, and none of us are completely good or bad.

What I'm saying is, whether what he did in a particular circumstance was good or bad, or whether he's been honest in this instance or lying in the next, for many depends purely on their political viewpoint. That's the tribalism.
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Well of course. We're all complex, and none of us are completely good or bad.

What I'm saying is, whether what he did in a particular circumstance was good or bad, or whether he's been honest in this instance or lying in the next, for many depends purely on their political viewpoint. That's the tribalism.


Are these your Twitter friends again?
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Are these your Twitter friends again?

No, it’s all the Republicans and Democrat talking heads on TV putting their own little spin on it.

Honestly, if you don’t recognise the ever changing spin on Comey from all sides between the Clinton email fiasco and now, you’re not as politically aware as I thought you were.
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No, it’s all the Republicans and Democrat talking heads on TV putting their own little spin on it.

Honestly, if you don’t recognise the ever changing spin on Comey from all sides between the Clinton email fiasco and now, you’re not as politically aware as I thought you were.



I’m fully aware that the point of most of your posts is to present yourself as an honest broker, one of the rare few who truly knows what’s going on. You can see through the political spin and emotionality that confuse the rest of us.
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So, Chris Cillizza?
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Old 04-16-2018, 11:42 AM   #1019
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I’m fully aware that the point of most of your posts is to present yourself as an honest broker, one of the rare few who truly knows what’s going on. You can see through the political spin and emotionality that confuse the rest of us.

Well I to try to be an honest broker, as you’re a loyal Democrat.

There’s room for both in this world.
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Well I to try to be an honest broker, as you’re a loyal Democrat.

There’s room for both in this world.


Not true.

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