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Old 02-05-2018, 03:28 PM   #81
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I would be enjoying this more if my retirement wasn't tied up in the market.

Still, I'd love to see the herd turn on Annoying Orange if the Trump Bump was completely erased.
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Old 02-05-2018, 05:17 PM   #82
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Old 02-05-2018, 05:38 PM   #83
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So what do you call a leader who refers to people who don't applaud him as "treasonous?"
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Dipshit Donald.

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Lolz they did share that the DNC helped fund the Dossier in the fisa warrant application after all.

Oh Devin Nunes, please don't ever stop being you.
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Did they share that the DNC specifically helped fund the dossier? Or just that it was partially funded by a political actor?
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Trump pleads the 5th:
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WASHINGTON — Lawyers for President Trump have advised him against sitting down for a wide-ranging interview with the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, according to four people briefed on the matter, raising the specter of a monthslong court battle over whether the president must answer questions under oath.

His lawyers are concerned that the president, who has a history of making false statements and contradicting himself, could be charged with lying to investigators. Their stance puts them at odds with Mr. Trump, who has said publicly and privately that he is eager to speak with Mr. Mueller as part of the investigation into possible ties between his associates and Russia’s election interference, and whether he obstructed justice.

Mr. Trump’s decision about whether to speak to prosecutors, expected in the coming weeks, will shape one of the most consequential moments of the investigation. Refusing to sit for an interview opens the possibility that Mr. Mueller will subpoena the president to testify before a grand jury, setting up a court fight that would drastically escalate the investigation and could be decided by the Supreme Court.

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Nooooooo, really?
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Well, he hasn't done anything near pleading the 5th yet.

But If I were his lawyers, I wouldn't agree to sit down with the special counsel either. I'd maybe offer to answer written questions, and that's it.

And if they subpoenaed the President, I'd fight it all the way to the SCOTUS. And then if he lost, and had to talk, I'd tell him to plead the 5th. Which he'd be entitled to do.

In Trump's case, this is particularly important...there's no way he doesn't lie in any interview, even if he is actually trying to be truthful. As clever and smart as he thinks he is, he has no idea what an interview with a Federal Prosecutor will be like. They will make very, very short work of him.

There's no upside for him to talk to them, only downside.
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He’s pleading the 5th without pleading the 5th. His lawyers think this is wise because he is a pathological liar. They are hoping Mueller won’t subpoena him.

Not everything is so literal.
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Bannon to meet with Mueller next week.
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This should be interesting.

Does he turn and go from the man who put him in, to the most hated man in the maga corner?

Or is it for show?
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He’s pleading the 5th without pleading the 5th. His lawyers think this is wise because he is a pathological liar. They are hoping Mueller won’t subpoena him.
Under normal circumstances, I'd say refusing to speak with a special counsel, and certainly taking the 5th, would be politically devastating to any sitting President.

But Trump? Who would care? People are so solidified on their positions on him...if you love Trump it won't matter, you'll just think it's all a big, biased conspiracy to get him. And if you hate him, you don't need any more reason to. There are some independents and moderate Republicans who I guess go back and forth on him, but they mostly care about things outside of his awful personality...the economy, etc.

So I guess the question is, what's the downside to him refusing to speak with Mueller? Why should he, when it can only get him in trouble? Taking the 5th only increases his political, not legal jeopardy (in fact it helps him with the latter). Better just ride it out and take your chances with impeachment.
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Seconding that .
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Lol someone actually started a Twitter account, @CadetBoneSpurs. Tammy Duckworth called him that back in January too. She kicks butt.
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