I would like people here to understand that it is extremely exhausting to try to participate in debate with center-leftists and Democrats with leftist critique. Speaking broadly and not necessarily about anyone here in particular, they have spent so much of the last 20 years convincing themselves that they are on the right side of every issue simply by being opposed to Republicans, and they still believe in the Sorkin-esque notion of debate and moderate policies and bipartisanship being an effective means of governance. Hell, I would know, I used to be there before I learned more about what is going on.
The true left finally being something discussed in public is something many centrists center-leftists can't wrap their heads around. Clinton was an objectively terrible candidate, and that fact is something many are not willing to acknowledge. More importantly, her candidacy is symbolic of so many of the problems with the Democratic Party and its platforms, insofar as it even has platforms any longer, which is debatable.
I will admit that both sides of this debate on the left choose to go narrow and broad in their analyses based on what benefits them in the moment. But the Republicans have all three houses, and it's not because the Democrats need to move further to the right. Thinking we need to commit MORE to centrism is a fundamental misread on what the hell has happened over the last two decades. Too many cannot understand that, whether it's because they're too far down the rabbit hole or simply because it doesn't benefit them to think that way.