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Old 01-03-2018, 06:23 PM   #481
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Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray met with Speaker Paul Ryan on Wednesday about the House Russia investigation, a GOP aide confirmed.

Rosenstein, escorted by his security detail, walked by a number of reporters who were staking out budget negotiations between top White House officials and top congressional leaders.

The meeting in the Speaker’s office came at the request of Rosenstein and Wray, the aide said.
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How are there not people in the street to get this guy out? Is our society so damn passive that people don't care? Even tinpot dictators would have people burning tires in the streets by now.
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How are there not people in the street to get this guy out? Is our society so damn passive that people don't care? Even tinpot dictators would have people burning tires in the streets by now.


I suppose people believe the system will take him down.
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I suppose people believe the system will take him down.
I think people just don't care. So long as they have their smart phones and Netflix and cars and relatively cheap gas, it's total disengagement from the process.

He can do a lot of damage in 3 years, not so much on his own but because the Republican Congress is 100% complicit and will not do the right thing no matter what.
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Since when did massive protests remove a president though? Populism put the pig in office. Don't rely on it taking him out. We don't need a mob. We need to fix our government.
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How are there not people in the street to get this guy out? Is our society so damn passive that people don't care? Even tinpot dictators would have people burning tires in the streets by now.
Considering we had members of Congress actively trying to hide and run from angry voters at town hall meetings regarding the healthcare repeal attempts last year, that should answer your question right there. People were out in the streets for the Women's March and in an attempt to try and stop the travel ban, too. You saw how seriously this administration took those efforts.

There are lots of angry people in this country. The dismal approval ratings alone should be proof of that and be a massive wake up call to the GOP that people are deeply unhappy with this administration, and Trump in particular.

The problem is they literally do not care about us. All they care about are their rich donor buddies and trying to keep the diehard Trump supporters happy.

We should do something, yes. And I think, and hope, a lot of us plan to make our voices heard when the midterms roll around. But obviously, that's still a ways away yet, and the GOP knows that, hence why they're continuing to pull their crap, because there's no immediate threat of losing their jobs coming to them. I honestly don't know what we can do in the meantime to get through to the GOP and make them listen to us. None of the usual methods seem to be working.
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They’re gearing up, they know midterms are in peril.
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Lolz this dope sent Bannon a cease and desist.
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This is fascinating. It's like that horrible House of Cards plot line only the writer is fucking Trump.

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Michael Wolff has tapes to back up quotes in his incendiary book — dozens of hours of them.

Among the sources*he taped, I'm told, are Steve Bannon and former White House deputy chief of staff Katie Walsh.

So that's going*to make it harder for officials to deny embarrassing or revealing quotes attributed to them in "Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House," out Tuesday.

In some cases,*the officials thought they were talking off the record. But what are they going to do now?

Although the White House*yesterday portrayed Wolff as a poseur, he spent hours at a time in private areas of the West Wing, including the office of Reince Priebus when he was chief of staff.

The White House*says Wolff was cleared for access to the West Wing fewer than 20 times.

Wolff,*a New Yorker, stayed at the Hay Adams Hotel when he came down to D.C., and White House sources frequently crossed Lafayette Park to meet him there.


Some reporters and officials are calling the book sloppy, and challenging specific passages.

How could Wolff*possibly know for sure what Steve Bannon and the late Roger Ailes said at a private dinner?

It turns out*Wolff hosted the dinner for six at his Manhattan townhouse.
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Lolz this dope sent Bannon a cease and desist.



So, clearly Bannon thinks Trump is going to jail. He’s distancing himself, especially from the Russia stuff.
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Tweet from @gilbertjasono: Steve Bannon has lost his mind, unlike the President, who is hosting a fantasy Awards Show for journalists who have wronged him
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So, clearly Bannon thinks Trump is going to jail. He’s distancing himself, especially from the Russia stuff.


This is correct.

What scares me is what is Trump going to do when Mueller indicts his sons, and potentially Ivanka.

You know it was kinda nice for about a week to not have any sort of crazy WTF moment. Sure enough holidays are over and it’s back to every day being more embarrassing than the last.
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Steve Bannon was openly handicapping a 33.3 percent chance of impeachment, a 33.3 percent chance of resignation in the shadow of the 25th amendment and a 33.3 percent chance that he might limp to the finish line on the strength of liberal arrogance and weakness.

Donald Trump's small staff of factotums, advisors and family began, on Jan. 20, 2017, an experience that none of them, by any right or logic, thought they would — or, in many cases, should — have, being part of a Trump presidency. Hoping for the best, with their personal futures as well as the country's future depending on it, my indelible impression of talking to them and observing them through much of the first year of his presidency, is that they all — 100 percent — came to believe he was incapable of functioning in his job.

At Mar-a-Lago, just before the new year, a heavily made-up Trump failed to recognize a succession of old friends.

Happy first anniversary of the Trump administration.
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How are there not people in the street to get this guy out? Is our society so damn passive that people don't care? Even tinpot dictators would have people burning tires in the streets by now.
Our society is so damn *defeated that people don't care. Nothing will change, why bother?

Just look at how many people did NOT vote in the last election, which was the real cause of Clinton's defeat. Too many people threw up their hands and said, "Why take time out of my busy day to do something that won't ever make a difference?"
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If you thought 2017 was bad, it'll have been like a picnic compared to 2018. Trump is getting worse and worse.
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people don't rise up in insurrection when their kids have full bellies and warm homes. it just doesn't ever happen, even in crazy repressive fascist dictatorships. nobody ever tries to upset the status quo when they're relatively comfortable simply because they don't like their politicians. it's unwise to abandon a ship before the thing starts to sink.

only once people start being unable to provide for their children will the populace start erecting barricades and burning tires in the streets. short of an economic catastrophe that nobody sane is hoping for, an anti-trump popular uprising (one that goes beyond simple protest) is just not going to happen.
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So, clearly Bannon thinks Trump is going to jail. He’s distancing himself, especially from the Russia stuff.


But not distancing himself of fear of prosecution. Distancing his little nazi movement from what he genuinely believes to be unpatriotic and detrimental to his movement.
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people don't rise up in insurrection when their kids have full bellies and warm homes. it just doesn't ever happen, even in crazy repressive fascist dictatorships. nobody ever tries to upset the status quo when they're relatively comfortable simply because they don't like their politicians. it's unwise to abandon a ship before the thing starts to sink.
And rightly so. Things are almost always worse in the immediate aftermath of people "rising up in insurrection." Genuine insurrections, revolutions, or whatever you want to call them, are generally bloody, messy affairs that break a lot of things and inconvenience people. Make one late for dinner. They're seldom, if ever, peaceful.

And anyone who asks why people aren't taking to the streets should first ask themselves why they aren't on the streets.

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only once people start being unable to provide for their children will the populace start erecting barricades and burning tires in the streets. short of an economic catastrophe that nobody sane is hoping for, an anti-trump popular uprising (one that goes beyond simple protest) is just not going to happen.
Yep. Things have to get much, much, much worse before you'd see any kind of genuine mass protests.

Which is why I've always thought the "Resistance" tag was a little silly. It's not like people are engaged general strikes, sabotaging infrastructure or trying to otherwise gum up the system. There are no resistance "cells" (except perhaps among the most extreme antifa groups) and as far as I know there haven't been mass resignations from the Federal government in protest of the fascist regime.

The "Resistance" is mostly just Tweeting gifs and memes. And some street protests, for those who can be bothered to get out.

Trump will leave office the same way he came in...via the democratic process, whether that means impeachment or invocation of the 25th Amendment or he loses the next election or simply declines to run. Hopefully sooner rather than later. But the country will survive, intact, and still be here (though perhaps a bit worse for wear and licking its wounds) when it's all said and done. But democracy will survive and America will endure...which is more than you could say if there was a genuine revolution.
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