Oh, FFS.
That continuing the argument comment applies to all involved in the argument.
That continuing the argument comment applies to all involved in the argument.
yeah definitely "eeeew" haha
the most infuriating thing was how some of them tried to use the bible or their very own "special hotline to God" to control women and teenage girls, by saying things like "God has told me i'm going to marry you" and "you don't need to bother with school because you're going to be a pastor's wife" - this happened to a few girls who looked like they were getting too clever or feisty or thinking for themselves, well me and a handful of my friends, but thankfully we all had the sense to rebel and say "in your dreams assholes" LOL
sadly there was no support for us girls back then, as our parents were in the church and total sheep and in some ways manipulated by these guys, so we had to rely on our wit and instincts to stay safe and get the hell out of there, which i did as soon as i could leave home and go as far away as i could then to study
i think that's probably why i am allergic to organised religion, especially of the "evangelical" kind
But yes, I leave the echo chamber in peace
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No, I wouldn't, and wouldn't like it if someone else did. I see your POV.I really don't think it's cool to mock people on their personal characteristics. That's what Trump does. It's one of the many reasons he's classless.
Would you mock the dialect of an African American or Latino member of Congress? What would you think of someone who did?
Yeah, that is a good point about the hypocracy.So from what I am reading, trump wants Franken (a democrat) investigated for sexual assault accusations but thinks it's up to the voters to decide Moore's fate ( a repub) and doesn't think he should get involved. Oh boy the hypocrisy just keeps getting crazier and crazier. Well, when will they investigate trump for sexual assault? The whole lot of these fools should be investigated!
The reason why this place is more one sided than ever is because nobody has been able to present a case for Trump without turning into a white nationalist douche.The really sad thing is that I truly believe the regulars don't even see it.
The reason why this place is more one sided than ever is because nobody has been able to present a case for Trump without turning into a white nationalist douche.
Funny how that happens. It's almost as if the man brings it out.
What is the case for Trump? I'd like to know. It will be almost a year soon.
The problem I have with the idea of "intelligent" conservatism is that conservatism is inherently immoral. They're simply wrong about things. Any intellectual debate is ultimately going to be sourced to how willing a conservative is to cast aside different groups of people.I think of an echo chamber as a place where the opinions you're putting out there pretty much sound like the opinions you're getting back...hence, an "echo".
I actually think there's probably a wider range of views (though mostly from the left) around here...say, Clinton style Dems and more radical Bernie style Dems...than we really see. I'd love a "US Politics" thread to have genuine debate about, well US Politics, with a few intelligent conservatives thrown in to keep everyone honest. But that's not really a debate I see in this thread...it's pretty much all Trump sucks all the time (again, that's what I've seen, maybe it's been different in the past). And when it's not Trump sucks it's Trump supporters are mostly fascists and white supremacists. I mean, that's not even good nonsense.
Again, I regard myself as a liberal, but I certainly enjoy be challenged by people to the left and right of me. And I'm actually convinced there are conservatives on this forum, but they take one look at this thread and say "nah. not worth it." Why would they want to put themselves through that?
The irony is that places like EYKIW, which is derided by a lot of people, tend to have the greatest diversity of opinion, if only about U2 and their music.
The problem I have with the idea of "intelligent" conservatism is that conservatism is inherently immoral. They're simply wrong about things. Any intellectual debate is ultimately going to be sourced to how willing a conservative is to cast aside different groups of people..
Principled and reasoned conservatives, mostly of the fiscal variety, are generally horrified by him as well.
I'm not a Democrat.Well, have there been any sustained voices from the right in this thread (in recent memory), that weren't white supremacists, or at least accused of being such?