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There are very precise definitions as to what constitutes hate speech - .
Is this hate speech?
There are very precise definitions as to what constitutes hate speech - .
Stop playing coy, Aeon. You can't tell the difference between what Muhammad Ali said 40 years ago about preferring his own race and people proudly waving Nazi flags and chanting Nazi slogans?
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No, that's not what I'm saying. It would be helpful if you wouldn't continue to misrepresent people's arguments in here.
Nowhere in Ali's speech was there any ideology of violence against those unlike him, or claims of the superiority of his race above others. Unlike Nazis.
Fair enough, but there are branches of the Alt-Right that are not Nazis
How much do you empathize/sympathize with white males?
White.
So, are we all in agreement that the border with Mexico must be secured?
I think Hillary Clinton's idea as she expresses it in this interview sounds reasonable to me
What have I said that is not true?
So, are we all in agreement that the border with Mexico must be secured?
Yes.So, are we all in agreement that the border with Mexico must be secured?
Not to derail this discussion, but jesus fucking christ who is advising Hillary Clinton, and what is with the near-constant sooking coming out of the Dems?
Hillary yesterday endorsed some new 'news' website called Verrit, with the tagline 'for 65.8 million' (referring to the amount of votes she got), which a few days earlier posted this article, one of the worst pieces of dog-whistling bullshit I've ever seen:
Sanders and the Mainstream Media Helped Put Trump in the White House
And then Peter Daou spent the rest of the day shitting himself on twitter.
What an absolute fucking train wreck, who the hell thought this would be a good idea?
To speak out, or even express concern about the immigrants from the Middle East is labeled "Hate Speech"
I won't go as far to say that the media and many on the left put Trump in office, but I will say that much of the media and many on the Sanders or bust train allowed themselves to be unwittingly used as pawns in Steve Bannon's long game.I agree I don't get this move at all.
It seems some are all too willing to create a left version of Trumpism.
I won't go as far to say that the media and many on the left put Trump in office, but I will say that much of the media and many on the Sanders or bust train allowed themselves to be unwittingly used as pawns in Steve Bannon's long game.
Read today that the US would lose $400 billion in GDP if DACA is rescinded. This isn't about making the country a better place. This is about racism.
I want you to show us examples, which country, the date, the particulars, the fine/punishment doled out for "expressing concerns" about immigrants from the Middle East.
Go.
To speak out, or even express concern about the immigrants from the Middle East is labeled "Hate Speech"
Still waiting on this one. Do YOU happen to have a source?
Just to remind everyone of exactly what you said:
"Expressing concerns" about immigrants from the Middle East is the platform of nearly every opposition party in Western Europe. They must all be sitting in jail?
Amitram, you are never satisfied with any follow-up (of which I have been quite reliable) so why bother? And when you are called out for your logic fallacies - you drop the subject or simply dismiss it as "disingenuous."
You can google the same as I can...
Still waiting on this one. Do YOU happen to have a source?
Just to remind everyone of exactly what you said:
"Expressing concerns" about immigrants from the Middle East is the platform of nearly every opposition party in Western Europe. They must all be sitting in jail?
sources:Foreign Policy Magazine - Europe's Freedom of Speech Fail
"What is the metric used for determining whether something is “hate” speech, or just permissible criticism? Increasingly, laws against hatred and offense have come to target controversial but non-violent speech including that of comedians, politicians critical of immigration, as well as Muslims vocally opposed to Western foreign policy. "
It remains unclear how aggressive social media sites are being — some highly offensive posts in German have indeed been quickly removed from Facebook in recent days while others have lingered online for days. Yet the push here happens as a country with a built-in sensitivity to provocative speech has seen a decidedly fiercer public discourse as more than 1 million asylum seekers and migrants crossed Germany’s border last year.
The offensive views include an online post of a hangman’s noose as one solution to the refugee crisis, a quip by a right-wing politician about the breeding habits of Africans, as well as a comment made by a controversial speaker at an anti-migrant rally lamenting the closure of World War II-era concentration camps.
You honestly think that white men need sympathizing with, more than women of a racial minority, in the US?
Have you actually read any of these? And you think that they support what you say?
Citing a tabloid like the Daily Mail...the article is borderline funny it's so ridiculous. Wow.
Please do some further research on the Swedish law and you'll see that you posted 2 articles that completely misrepresent it and the law does not do what you claim it does. If it did, half of Sweden's opposition parliamentarians would be sanctioned daily. It's not that hard to find actual translations of the law, but I can't blame you when a Google search shows the first page results all linking to absurd articles, quoting the same exact wrong information. Dig a bit deeper.
Regarding the German law of hate speech in social media, from WaPo, which you cited:
Sure sounds like silencing those "expressing concern about Middle East immigration."
Please educate yourself some more without just posting things with catchy titles.
A great man once said, "Amitram, you are never satisfied with any follow-up (of which I have been quite reliable) so why bother?"
Amitram, you are never satisfied with any follow-up (of which I have been quite reliable) so why bother?
Please educate yourself some more without just posting things with catchy titles.