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Old 08-20-2017, 10:30 AM   #861
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You do realise antifa movements have a long history in Europe and date back to early 1930s Germany, yeah?
was about to say the same

i like the name - it also works in different languages (it's the same in French)
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The name "antifa" makes me cringe sooooo much.
This past week was honestly the first time I'd even heard of such a movement existing here in the States. The right's trying to make it seem like the left's been looking the other way on this antifa group for some time now...a lot of us haven't even heard of these people until now. Yeah, we're familiar with the violence that some on the left have been committing lately, but I, and I imagine some others on the left as well, don't recall hearing it being attributed to antifa movements before now. If it was, we apparently must've missed it.
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Old 08-20-2017, 11:22 AM   #863
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You do realise antifa movements have a long history in Europe and date back to early 1930s Germany, yeah?


Yes, reread the end of my post. I'm criticizing a bunch of loons on the right for backing something they don't understand (they're awful people, but they're hardly nazis in ideology if you compare the two).

Then you have this group calling themselves antifa, as though fascism is what they're fighting. They're fighting racism. Not fascism. Just as these folks are trying to take the namesake of nazis when they're not. I'm a bit tired, so I might not be explaining this in the best of manners, but basically what I'm saying is they're both two groups or collectives of groups who bought up a branding they don't understand and fail to meet.
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This past week was honestly the first time I'd even heard of such a movement existing here in the States. The right's trying to make it seem like the left's been looking the other way on this antifa group for some time now...a lot of us haven't even heard of these people until now. Yeah, we're familiar with the violence that some on the left have been committing lately, but I, and I imagine some others on the left as well, don't recall hearing it being attributed to antifa movements before now. If it was, we apparently must've missed it.

I'm not criticizing what they're doing. I'm criticizing their branding.
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Oh, yeah, I know that. Your post just sent me on my own tangent about them, was all .
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I have to say that I hate the name 'antifa' and rather have people not use it. Don't know who came up with it, but it sounds like something those on the (extreme) right did to obscure the movement's goal and have something to rally against. I mean, ask a random person what is worse, alt-right or antifa, and you might get some surprising answers. So just call them as they've always been called, anti-fascists.
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I have to say that I hate the name 'antifa' and rather have people not use it. Don't know who came up with it, but it sounds like something those on the (extreme) right did to obscure the movement's goal and have something to rally against. I mean, ask a random person what is worse, alt-right or antifa, and you might get some surprising answers. So just call them as they've always been called, anti-fascists.



If you don't know anything, it sounds Arabic. Which is going to become a problem.
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I don't like alt-right either. We should just stick with calling them Nazi cunts
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If you don't know anything, it sounds Arabic. Which is going to become a problem.
Are you taking the piss?
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Are you taking the piss?


Yes.
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If it's directed at my earlier comment... Atifa is an Arabic women's name. And I'm half Arab. And I know people with this name. So... it does, literally, sound Arab. Aunt + Atifa... Antifa. Ok?
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If it's directed at my earlier comment... Atifa is an Arabic women's name. And I'm half Arab. And I know people with this name. So... it does, literally, sound Arab. Aunt + Atifa... Antifa. Ok?



No, I was literally thinking that, if you're an idiot and predisposed to dislike leftists, it does sound like a Muslim group, likely because said idiot might get it confused with Intifada.
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No, I was literally thinking that, if you're an idiot and predisposed to dislike leftists, it does sound like a Muslim group, likely because said idiot might get it confused with Intifada.


Before you replied I was about to say this is what I thought you meant, but opted to just let you speak for yourself. Because yeah, this is what I think the right would make of such a name. Which, tbh, might be egged on by some of the folks of the left. Which I don't support. I don't like this new brand of right because they justify everything through "anti PC" and "I'm just trolling" and sarcasm and whatever. That shit needs to stop, ya know? Definitely don't want the troll game to be encouraged.
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But does antifa like pizza?
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How big a group is antifa in the USA anyway it sounds like it's just a made up enemy for the right
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I never had a problem with it. It's weird seeing all these mentions of this stuff outside of discussions of pertaining to skinhead bands though.
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