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Old 08-15-2017, 09:36 PM   #741
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If we're going to build a wall around anyone, can we just build it around the Nazis and all those supporting and defending them instead?
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Old 08-15-2017, 09:47 PM   #742
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When in the are republicans gonna stand up and denounce this crazy d bag!
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Old 08-15-2017, 10:00 PM   #743
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Unfortunately, a sizeable number of liberal pundits have been pushing this "alt-left" rubbish in recent times. I don't think it was Hannity who coined it.



There's really no such thing as the "alt-left".
It's like an abuser saying but you provoked me that's why I hit you. This is not a both sides thing.
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Old 08-15-2017, 10:22 PM   #744
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It's like an abuser saying but you provoked me that's why I hit you. This is not a both sides thing.


Well he has a big MRA following, so that makes sense.
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Old 08-15-2017, 10:23 PM   #745
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As horrible as this all is, the most amazing thing to me is still the fact that we elected a POTUS who can't string together a coherent sentence.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/15/politi...nes/index.html
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Old 08-15-2017, 10:30 PM   #746
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As horrible as this all is, the most amazing thing to me is still the fact that we elected a POTUS who can't string together a coherent sentence.

The 14 most shocking comments from Trump's Charlottesville news conference - CNNPolitics
And there are still people who approve of him!
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Old 08-15-2017, 10:32 PM   #747
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As horrible as this all is, the most amazing thing to me is still the fact that we elected a POTUS who can't string together a coherent sentence.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/15/politi...nes/index.html


They're only concerned about speaking English if you're brown.
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i'm getting an ominous feeling about what the next presidential campaign is going to look like.
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Old 08-15-2017, 10:53 PM   #749
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Hannity was the first "mainstream" pundit to use it, and like everything else he does, he has to repeat it over and over, but it was just used as a reaction. He applies it to everyone left of himself, it means nothing.

I honestly haven't heard any left pundits use it, but admittedly don't listen to them all that much, though I did read blogs right after the election about how the left needed an alt-left.
No self proclaimed leftists have identified with it (because it doesn't really even mean anything, we're the same leftists as we've always been), it has mostly been used as a means to punch left for a while now and has been given quite the run by #TheResistance #NeverTrump liberal types as well as conservatives like Hannity (as you've pointed out). I'm not particularly surprised at the ease as it has been taken in by conservatives.

It has been infuriating to see folks like the founder of Daily Kos punching left even after the events in Charlottesville. I hope all liberals steer clear of using 'alt left' for good now.
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In American liberal circles, "alt left" came about to describe the push for purity among the fringier Bernie folks -- a good recent example has been the attempts to smear Kamala Harris, Deval Patrick, and Corey Booker for being insuffuciently pure (and black, and female), especially when it comes to Wall Street. This was reminiscent of the Tea Party and the RINO charges that came about in right wing circles under Obama, and is responsible for the party's present lack of moderates. Many of us don't want the left to go down the same path as the right, and understand that the way to win elections is through having a big tent and running talent.

In recent week, it seems the Alt Right had been overtaken by its fringe, these people make Milo look positively reasonable because he isn't a Nazi. So, I would agree -- there is no left wing equivalent to this present understanding of the AltRight. BLM and even the Antifa (who I've only recently become aware of) don't belong in the same sentence as the filth we saw in Charlottesville. Especially BLM.
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All we need is the Apprentice tape of Trump saying the N word to come out
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All we need is the Apprentice tape of Trump saying the N word to come out


Or getting peed on by Russian hookers.
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BLM and Antifa are both undeniable positives. They both deserve wholehearted support.
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Ah yes, I forgot when the alt-left rammed that car into the protestors.
Or came out with militia...I guess they didn't plan to stir things up right ?

No one is denying both sides were violent. But only one side commited murder, and is consistently on the wrong side of history, and stands for some of the most vile ideas.
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Robert E. Lee opposed the building of Confederate monuments.

Robert E. Lee opposed Confederate monuments | PBS NewsHour

A very interesting article about Lee's views following the Civil War.
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All we need is the Apprentice tape of Trump saying the N word to come out
I think that's just a matter of time now... thanks to capitalism.

If that tape was a stock, it would never be priced higher than right now. Someone will sell it.
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BLM and Antifa are both undeniable positives. They both deserve wholehearted support.
there is a strong Antifa presence in our nearest largest town - must say it's nice to know they're around and committed to standing up to the local neo-nazis (who are a VERY small fringe group thankfully)

i admit to hiding my son's antifa t-shirt in the laundry for months though after he flashed it to the local neo-nazis (slowly unzipped his jacket to reveal his t-shirt and grinned at them like a stoopid when they asked him for a light) and promptly had to dodge two punches and got chased (he was fine though THANK FUCK, but i aged about 20 years overnight)
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I think that's just a matter of time now... thanks to capitalism.

If that tape was a stock, it would never be priced higher than right now. Someone will sell it.


It exists. It's whether or not the person or persons who have copies of it want the legal trouble that will come with it
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Trump’s Aides Tried to Conceal His Crazy, Racist Beliefs

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/u...=top-news&_r=0

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