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Old 08-12-2017, 03:23 PM   #621
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Yep. I think we can see more and more of this going forward.

Maybe it's best not to counter protest?? I know it's a right but it's clearly obvious it's not going to end well.

Why go?
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Old 08-12-2017, 03:37 PM   #622
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All this hurts my heart we are going backwards!
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Old 08-12-2017, 03:54 PM   #623
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Trump won't criticise the white supremacists. Unbelievable and shameful.
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Old 08-12-2017, 04:00 PM   #624
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We now know that at least one person has been killed as a result of the hit-and-run. And apparently the driver has been arrested.
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Old 08-12-2017, 04:26 PM   #625
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Trump won't criticise the white supremacists. Unbelievable and shameful.


It's a big part of his vocal base, of course he won't. He needs them.

Bannon is smiling and licking his lips.
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Old 08-12-2017, 04:41 PM   #626
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I am saddened by the fact that so many Americans must be ok with this hatered. How else would we be here
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Trump condemns 'hatred and violence' in Charlottesville - BBC News
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Old 08-12-2017, 06:06 PM   #628
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Bannon is smiling and licking his lips.
If and when Trump does leave office, can Bannon please go with him? Hell, can this entire loony administration go with him?
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Old 08-12-2017, 06:11 PM   #629
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You'll note that he refrains from any specific reference to white supremacy.
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Old 08-12-2017, 06:33 PM   #630
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Yep. He will never call them out. They are part of his base and administration.

It also pisses off liberals and the GOP has turned into nothing but trolls. Nearly every cabinet position, policy decision, and tweet has been nothing but a giant Fuck You to liberals.

They won't govern because they can't.

We are fucked
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You'll note that he refrains from any specific reference to white supremacy.
Well it's not as if he ever pushed for people to use labels when referring to certain groups of people before.
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And he'll never take any responsibility for stoking the flames with his nasty rhetoric, either.

But remember, it's "offensive" to insist that Trump's supporters are racist/sexist/xenophobic/homophobic. Voting for him was purely about the economy and other similar issues of that sort, nothing more.
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Words matter.

https://twitter.com/cbcterry/status/896500809055129600
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Remember like 49% of people didn't even vote! I pray that means only a small percentage of people are actually Trump supporters. But how in the hell do we get out of this!
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Yep. I think we can see more and more of this going forward.

Maybe it's best not to counter protest?? I know it's a right but it's clearly obvious it's not going to end well.

Why go?
I'm not sure you understand, it's easier for these movements to grow if there is no counter-protest/resistance to them.
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But how in the hell do we get out of this!
Yeah, that's what I want to hear more discussion of right now. Okay, the majority of the country, if the dismal approval ratings and the fact he didn't win the popular vote are anything to go by, clearly seems to agree that Trump is shit. We can, and should, all channel that into voting and encouraging people to vote Democrat (or support more moderate conservative candidates, for those who lean Republican) come 2018 and 2020, but obviously, that's still a ways off yet.

So what can we do in the meantime? What's the best way to stress to the GOP that we want Trump gone as soon as possible, and we want them to be fully on board with the investigation and potential impeachment? What can we do to try and fight back more against these white nationalists, or demand people like Bannon be kicked out of the White House, or things of that sort? It just feels like the typical methods-protests, town hall meetings, donating to organizations trying to put a halt to this madness-aren't quite enough, or aren't being taken seriously enough. If there's other worthwhile ways to get organized and get our message across in a way that makes people actually pay attention and take it seriously, though, it'd be great to hear more about them.
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There is just a huge us verses them divide now we need to heal that first but how?
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I'm not sure you understand, it's easier for these movements to grow if there is no counter-protest/resistance to them.
As an addition.

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If there is anything the last 7 months taught me is that there is no hope of change or getting rid of trump until democrats become a majority again. The GOP is spineless and will not do anything about trump! It's party over country. Even with his latest rhetoric and childish war of words with KJU, the GOP will still support him because going against him is like going against your party even if it's blatantly obvious that going against your party is the only right thing to do. The only hope is that people are so fed up and scared over what trump is doing, that in 2018 the GOP will lose the majority status. Until than I am afraid we are stuck with this scary orange clown!
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I'm not sure you understand, it's easier for these movements to grow if there is no counter-protest/resistance to them.


While this might be true normally, I can't help but feel as though as the times change, acknowledging it allows for vitality to encourage folks to pick a side.

In this particular case I don't think that's necessarily true. But overall, that trend seems to be true.
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