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Old 07-20-2017, 07:54 PM   #201
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Soon we will need Bono to lobby for money for Americans
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cori ah, another thing that we can feel great about our great President. (What an ignorant man!)

anitram In general on the federal level as far as the Presidency goes - Republicans do not have the national numbers to win an election easily. The majority of people at least lean center-left. This is why, for instance, they took gerrymandering to a hyper level.

Paul Weyrich cofounder of the very conservative Heritage Foundation, and ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Council) and The Moral Majority (very rightwing Christian organization) said -

"I don't want everybody to vote. Elections are not won by a majority of the people. They never have been from the beginning of our country and they are not now. As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down"


Thus we now have the latest attack on voting with this Voter Fraud Commission bullshit, along the previous launch of restrictive voter ID laws in the past several years.

The demographics are against them as white people will no longer be the overall majority in this country, and each white generation in general (vs certain pockets geographically or in extremely racist families etc) now is less and less personally racist, and is more aware of systemic racism. Same for though started later so more work to do- LGBTQI issues. Women's equality probably as difficult as above two groups. Also nore people now identify as Spiritual vs Religious- which continues to page the way for serious erosion of very strict religious groups, and increased serious ecumenical outreach amongst progressive Protestant, and Baptist Churches, Reformed Judaism Temples etc I know that because I've been to both a Baptist and Protestant church of those types!

Sorry, atheists I-landers, I am a spiritual person who also loves science. I'm comfortable with easy-going atheists, not a those who try to shove down my throat how stupid, or superstitious I am . ( this is in general no one has been nasty like that on i-land, oh a little jokey jab is OK from a few folk.


As far as McCain goes... yikes! Scary enough to have had that blood clot above his eye but now this. I may have not liked him a lot of the time, but occasionally he did some good things (good story irvine, and the reminder of him speaking out against his campaign followers is President Obama). Of course his service, horrific imprisonment (and a-- hat trump demeaning him).
Just awful news. (a cousin of mine died from some form of brain cancer around 8 months after diagnosis in 2015)
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Actually, it's very easy to have sympathy when you consider that John McCain is a HUMAN BEING.
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Cancer is undeniably awful but it is difficult to have much sympathy for a man like John McCain, given his warmongering ways and propensity to support right-wing extremists. It is fascinating to see how he's been 'rehabilitated' in light of Trump existing, not in a dissimilar way to Dubya.
Oh, come on Vlad, most folks here still say how awful W was as President. But drumph is in certain ways off the charts
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Old 07-20-2017, 08:49 PM   #205
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That's a scary quote, Dazz.
Yeah, hoooo boy
I first heard it about 10 yes ago or so through one or two of then "Air America" Radio radio talkers.
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Oh, come on Vlad, most folks here still say how awful W was as President. But drumph is in certain ways off the charts
Not talking about FYM specifically, but in the wider sphere it does happen.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.fadd37091ae4
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Screen capped that WP piece, Bomac.
Thanks.

Quote from one of Trump's lawyers.

"It's like Ken Starr x 1,000."



Oh, boo, hoo, hoo, poor drumphy!
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What is that a screen shot of Headache?

With Mueller looking into finances of Trump I think thats going to be what pushes him over to fire everyone involved with the investigation.
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I mean what is gonna be the straw that breaks the camels back here? It's a runaway train, when will it stop
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This ends ugly now matter what.

If Trump fires the Mueller, do the GOP stand up for what's right? I think the answer is no.

If the investigation comes back with damning evidence of collusion, does the GOP do anything? I think the answer is no.

If Trump has criminal charges placed against him, does he pardon himself? Yes.

There's just no going back to "normal" from any of this.
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This ends ugly now matter what.

If Trump fires the Mueller, do the GOP stand up for what's right? I think the answer is no.

If the investigation comes back with damning evidence of collusion, does the GOP do anything? I think the answer is no.

If Trump has criminal charges placed against him, does he pardon himself? Yes.

There's just no going back to "normal" from any of this.
we need a super hero
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Comic Con is just down street from where I live so I'll see if any are available
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Spicy is out!
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Can we get rid of Sanders too? I thought she was worse.

Has to be the worst beginning of any Presidents term in how long? Ever?
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In Memoriam...

Sean Spicer: Watch His Greatest Hits at the Press Briefing | Time.com
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Spicy is out!
And Scaramucci is in. Trump continues to assume that people who know how to make money must also know how to govern.
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What is that a screen shot of Headache?

With Mueller looking into finances of Trump I think thats going to be what pushes him over to fire everyone involved with the investigation.
Requests by the Senate Judiciary committee investigating the Russian scandal.

They want all communications related to a whole lot of Russians and Trump campaign staff... and Jill Stein.
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If the investigation comes back with damning evidence of collusion, does the GOP do anything? I think the answer is no.
Sadly agreed on this. I don't think there is anything Trump could possibly do that would make Congress Republicans seriously move against him.
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