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Old 06-14-2017, 10:22 AM   #801
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The right is already blaming the left for inciting unprecedented violence (I guess they forgot about Gabby Giffords), literally nobody cares that VA is an open carry state with basically no gun control regulations whatsoever.
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If everyone playing recreational baseball was armed, then we wouldn't have shootings during recreational baseball, or something.
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:27 AM   #803
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If everyone playing recreational baseball was armed, then we wouldn't have shootings during recreational baseball, or something.
Yeah, when I look at an average Congressman, my first thought is, that guy could totally be Rambo.
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:58 AM   #804
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Russians, I reckon.


Ha. Maybe. Or Clinton killed voters.

Guess my vague point goes back to what Irvine and others have said....

Every time we have a progressive candidate, they lose to a centrist. You can make excuses about financing and power already established for this type

But all we've heard from Bernie, and Robert Reich, is there's a huge movement. Yet when it comes time to pull the lever, people stick with what they're comfortable with
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:02 AM   #805
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The right is already blaming the left for inciting unprecedented violence (I guess they forgot about Gabby Giffords), literally nobody cares that VA is an open carry state with basically no gun control regulations whatsoever.


And let's assume this suspect was a liberal....you'd have to think this demonizing of either side plays a role.

If we do play the guess game, im assuming its healthcare related
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Not really your best take, Irvine. I do sincerely believe you're better than this post.
Meh, seemed pretty spot on
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:36 AM   #807
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Not really your best take, Irvine. I do sincerely believe you're better than this post.
depressingly, a guy i know (far-left Melenchon supporter) refused to vote Macron (centrist) in the second round, claiming that he was a financial fascist which, to him (and others it seems), equates to Le Pen style fascism (in his own words) - don't think Melenchon would have approved of that, although i still haven't forgiven him for not publicly supporting the "front republicain" to block Le Pen - he won't have my vote next time round, just because of that, because he refused to make a public stand against the immediate and very dangerous threat of the FN at the time- i will just stick to the socialists i reckon if a decent candidate comes along - really disappointing though!
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Not really your best take, Irvine. I do sincerely believe you're better than this post.
Seriously. It's also sort of ironic, considering the contempt with which Democrats have spoken about the far left lately. For all their talk of wanting to compromise on everything, they only want to actually compromise with the right.
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But I'm sure we will hear soon how the shooter is mentally ill
apparently a Bernie Sanders supporter and campaign volunteer
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The Right have the power.

All Democrats have right now is silly moral victories in how they lost a congressional election by 7% versus 25%

And turns out the shooter today volunteered for Bernie. I feel horrible for Sanders, cause this pretty much ruins whatever goodwill he built up. The GOP/FoxNews/Trump are going to destroy him over this.

This also hurts any liberal cause since we will now be characterized as violent when we don't get our way. Liberals riot at universities when they don't like a speech. And now liberals want to kill GOP congressmen.

We have a Commander in Chief who I'm sure will handle this with complete class.

Both sides need to watch what the fuck they say. When you talk about taking our country back, or a revolution in a country with more guns than people....over time shit is going to boil over. Not an excuse, but I think we've all sensed that shit like this will become more common.
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The right is already blaming the left for inciting unprecedented violence (I guess they forgot about Gabby Giffords), literally nobody cares that VA is an open carry state with basically no gun control regulations whatsoever.
To say nothing of the fact how gun sales went up significantly during the Obama administration because the right stoked the flames of "he's going to take away your guns", and the signs with targets on Obama or the "Second Amendment solutions" remarks towards Hillary (made by Trump himself during the campaign, if I recall rightly?). And then of course there's Nugent and his vile remarks, too, and he was invited to the White House...

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We have a Commander in Chief who I'm sure will handle this with complete class.
Yeah, I saw a headline talking about him calling for unity. Be interested to see how long he himself holds to that.

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Both sides need to watch what the fuck they say. When you talk about taking our country back, or a revolution in a country with more guns than people....over time shit is going to boil over. Not an excuse, but I think we've all sensed that shit like this will become more common.
Completely agreed on this.

Horrifying news to wake up to. From what I saw on TV, it sounds like two of the people who were hit are in critical condition at the moment, so sending good thoughts to them-here's hoping they'll be able to pull through. It sounds like Scalise and two others who were shot are going to be okay, though, thank goodness.
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apparently a Bernie Sanders supporter and campaign volunteer


a 60ish white bro, too.

so, no terrorism to see here. just mentally ill. poor thing. we need better treatment.
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Seriously. It's also sort of ironic, considering the contempt with which Democrats have spoken about the far left lately.

given the drip-drip-drip of the Russia leaks, a little contempt is understandable, no? given what we now know? i mean, just a little?



given that a gay pride parade, of all things, was disrupted by some splinter left wing group called NO JUSTICE NO PRIDE this past weekend, it seems the far left isn't at all interested in compromise and working together. there may be no choice but to work on growing the ranks of the Romney-to-Clinton voters repulsed by Trump.
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The shooter looks a lot like John Goodman's character from the Big Lebowski.
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So we can blame Hollywood Elites as well!
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Fuck everything, tbh.
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You see what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass Congressman Scalise???!!!!!
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The political discourse in this country is toxic. Then you add to the fact that we have to hear about it 24/7 and it's going to drive people crazy.
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Fuck everything, tbh.
Pretty much sums it up.
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The political discourse in this country is toxic. Then you add to the fact that we have to hear about it 24/7 and it's going to drive people crazy.
I'm afraid that this shooting is only the beginning. That's what you get when you only have two major parties in this country.
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