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Old 09-28-2007, 06:25 PM   #41
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Thompson/Gulianni vs Clinton/Webb
That's my prediction for now.
I'll go with Giuliani/Gingrich vs Clinton/Gephardt for now.
I think I picked Hillary vs Gingrich about a year ago.
I still don't buy Rudy being sold to the base but who the hell else?

Gingrich would help bring in the die-hard conservatives and sure up the Southerners.

Gephardt would hand Hillary a battleground state and further solidify the moderate midwest. The South is lost to them, forget Evan Bayh and others, not enough electoral votes to matter. There would be an outside chance of going West in normal situations but with the Reps hardline stance on immigration, I think they are going to struggle big time out there. She will not make the Gore/Kerry mistake in the VP process. Sorry, Obama.
Picking VP's is always a strange game anyways. The most they can really do is hurt you or hand you a State.

All that said, I don't count Romney out just yet.
I wouldn't even bury Huckabee before I'd bury McCain and FT.
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Old 09-29-2007, 11:27 AM   #42
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did you (or anyone else) watch that debate? which was the moron who compared abortion to Darfur?


I will not endorse a candidate who is against gay marriage.
Who compared abortion to Darfur? That's dumb. I won't vote for a candidate who's against gay marriage either.
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Old 09-29-2007, 01:08 PM   #43
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Giuliani

very well may be the GOP nominee

and I hope he is


everything Conservatives say about Hillary

is really true for Giuliani,
but only magnified by about 3 times


he is looking more and more

like Nosferatu


of course,
no one is paying attrention


but Giuliani just got caught in a plot trying to fix the 2008 Nov election

much like Bush and company fixed the 2000 election
where they were able to prevent Florida's electoral votes from going to Gore
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Gingrich is out. He says he's not running. It seems like he has a conflict of interest.
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It seems like he has a conflict of interest.
what would that be?

an I Q over 100?
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an I Q over 100?
Not Newt.
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Not Newt.
Well - I would think it would take an IQ above 100 to accomplish this:

He received a B.A. degree from Emory University in Atlanta in 1965. He received an M.A. in 1968 and a Ph.D in 1971 in Modern European History from Tulane University in New Orleans.

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In terms of civil liberties he would definitely be more frightening than Giuliani.
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Not Newt.
I suppose it's human nature that the more a person aligns with your own views, the "smarter" he becomes.

And vice versa, obviously.
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Well - I would think it would take an IQ above 100 to accomplish this:

He received a B.A. degree from Emory University in Atlanta in 1965. He received an M.A. in 1968 and a Ph.D in 1971 in Modern European History from Tulane University in New Orleans.

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george w. bush has a degree from harvard and from yale.



35 years ago, all you had to be was a connected white male. now, not so much.

but, in fairness, there's no question newt thinks he's brilliant and that he's some sort of cutting edge intellectual, and i don't think he came from the same blue blood background as our shit-for-brains president.
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george w. bush has a degree from harvard and from yale.

Thank you.
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I suppose it's human nature that the more a person aligns with your own views, the "smarter" he becomes.

And vice versa, obviously.
Of course.
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our shit-for-brains president.
Do you really think he's stupid? Seriously? I mean, like that really slow guy behind the counter at that backwoods gas station kind of stupid?

As I've said before - history will be very kind to W.
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As I've said before - history will be very kind to W.
doubt it...

I think the damage he's done to us internationally will take a long time to heal and this will be his greatest blotch on his legacy.
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As I've said before - history will be very kind to W.
How so? Just curious. Based on what has happened to date or based on how you anticipate Iraq will end up?
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As I've said before - history will be very kind to W.
I don't see how that's possible, since he's one of the most legitimately disliked presidents, and by probably the largest majority of people ever. I think history will make him look even more incompetent, if that's possible.
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I don't see how that's possible, since he's one of the most legitimately disliked presidents, and by probably the largest majority of people ever.
Abraham Lincoln and Harry Truman were also very unpopular.
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Abraham Lincoln and Harry Truman were also very unpopular.
And Jimmy Carter.

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Abraham Lincoln and Harry Truman were also very unpopular.
With a very huge exception being that the rest of the world didn't really care nor was particularly affected on a large scale by these two.

GWB is reviled internationally and disliked domestically. How you think history will treat him well is beyond me.

And yes, I believe he's genuinely stupid.
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Abraham Lincoln and Harry Truman were also very unpopular.
Read my post again:

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Originally posted by phillyfan26 I don't see how that's possible, since he's one of the most legitimately disliked presidents, and by probably the largest majority of people ever. I think history will make him look even more incompetent, if that's possible.
And, Diamond, I think Jimmy Carter's still not thought of highly as a president. Was he a good guy? Yeah. But he wasn't a good president.
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