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Old 10-07-2008, 04:35 PM   #981
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there's still plenty of time for them to come to their senses.
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In the first debate he sounded like he was about to you yell, "You damn kids get off my lawn!" at any moment.
Somebody's been listening to Stephanie Miller on Air America!
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Somebody's been listening to Stephanie Miller on Air America!
Actually, I haven't. I hate talk radio of any kind. Actually, I just hate the radio in general. I only listen to my iPod even when I'm in the car..
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Actually, I haven't. I hate talk radio of any kind. Actually, I just hate the radio in general. I only listen to my iPod even when I'm in the car..

They do a Grampy McSame bit on her show that is really funny.
Stephanie is a great way to start the day for me because she is comic relief from the usual bickering back and forth! That's why I love her. I need to laugh.
It's like the Daily Show on the radio. Plus she has a segment called right-wing world and she plays back all the outrageous comments from Fox.
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actually many ran away form their supposed optimistic predictions

I think I have always said I expected a decisive win by Obama


my only question has been,
Is there a candidate that I can enthusiastically say,
"I am for him".


most of us made qualified guesses based upon the information on hand at the time knowing full well that polls don't mean much early, that most people weren't paying attention, and that anything could change given any crises anywhere in the world. it's interesting to see how some of our gut instincts appear to have been validated, while the wishful thinking of others has been exposed as little more than hackery.

and some of us spent months antagonizing those who could indeed enthusiastically say, "i am for him."
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I have had a gut feeling for some time now that Obama would take it. The problem is, my brain was always fighting it, for good reason. Now the two are slowly coming to a symbiosis.

That said, 28 days is a long time.

Interestingly enough, the Conservatives in Canada called a snap election fearing that an Obama win in the US would boot them (it probably would). They were up massively last week, en route to a majority and have plummeted in the polls some 11% over the last 4-5 days. Coinciding precisely with Obama's steep rise in national and state polls over the same period. Lucky for them there is only a week left, so they may benefit from it, but as of right now, things are looking ugly for them.
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Interestingly enough, the Conservatives in Canada called a snap election fearing that an Obama win in the US would boot them (it probably would). They were up massively last week, en route to a majority and have plummeted in the polls some 11% over the last 4-5 days. Coinciding precisely with Obama's steep rise in national and state polls over the same period. Lucky for them there is only a week left, so they may benefit from it, but as of right now, things are looking ugly for them.


no wonder no one will take you people hostage.

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OK seriously I keep telling you guys that the Serbs took that one peacekeeper and tied him to a tree!!
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In terms of the popular vote in the United States, here are the margins of victory in each election from 1824, the earliest election with complete popular vote data available, all the way up to 2004. The list is ranked based on the largest margins of victory down to the smallest in the popular vote.

1. 1920 Harding 60.32% Cox 34.15% +26.19%
2. 1924 Coolidge 54.04% Davis 28.82% +25.22%
3. 1936 Roosevelt 60.80% Landon 36.54% +24.26%
4. 1972 Nixon 60.67% McGovern 37.52% +23.15%
5. 1964 Johnson 61.05% Goldwater 38.47% +22.58%
6. 1904 Roosevelt 56.42% Parker 37.59% +18.83%
7. 1984 Reagan 58.77% Mondale 40.56% +18.21%
8. 1832 Jackson 54.74% Clay 36.93% +17.81%
9. 1932 Roosevelt 57.41% Hoover 39.65% +17.76%
10. 1928 Hoover 58.21% Smith 40.80% +17.41%
11. 1956 Eisenhower 57.37% Stevenson 41.97% +15.4%
12. 1912 Wilson 41.84% Roosevelt 27.40% +14.44%
13. 1836 Van Buren 50.79% Harrison 36.59% +14.2%
14. 1828 Jackson 55.93% Adams 43.68% +12.25%
15. 1856 Buchanan 45.29% Fremont 33.09% +12.2%
16. 1872 Grant 55.58% Greeley 43.78% +11.8%
17. 1952 Eisenhower 55.18% Stevenson 44.33% +10.85%
18. 1824 Adams 30.92% Jackson 41.36% +10.44%
19. 1860 Lincoln 39.65% Douglas 29.52% +10.13%
20. 1864 Lincoln 55.03% McClellan 44.95% +10.08%
21. 1940 Roosevelt 54.74% Willkie 44.78% +9.96%
22. 1980 Reagan 50.75% Carter 41.01% +9.74%
23. 1908 Taft 51.57% Bryan 43.04% +8.53%
24. 1996 Clinton 49.23% Dole 40.72% +8.51%
25. 1988 Bush 53.37% Dukakis 45.65% +7.72%
26. 1944 Roosevelt 53.39% Dewey 45.89% +7.5%
27. 1852 Pierce 50.83% Scott 43.88% +6.95%
28. 1900 McKinley 51.64% Bryan 45.52% +6.12%
29. 1840 Harrison 52.87% Van Buren 46.82% +6.05%
30. 1992 Clinton 43.01% Bush 37.45% +5.56%
31. 1868 Grant 52.66% Seymour 47.34% +5.32%
32. 1848 Taylor 47.28% Cass 42.49% +4.79%
33. 1948 Truman 49.55% Dewey 45.07% +4.48%
34. 1896 McKinley 51.02% Bryan 46.71% +4.31%
35. 1916 Wilson 49.24% Hughes 46.12 +3.12%
36. 1892 Cleveland 46.02% Harrison 43.01% +3.01%
37. 1876 Hayes 47.92% Tilden 50.92% +3%
38. 2004 Bush 50.73% Kerry 48.27% +2.46%
39. 1976 Carter 50.08% Ford 48.02% +2.06%
40. 1844 Polk 49.54% Clay 48.09% +1.45%
41. 1888 Harrison 47.80% Cleveland 48.63% +.83%
42. 1968 Nixon 43.42% Humphrey 42.72% +.7%
43. 1884 Cleveland 48.85% Blaine 48.28% +.57%
44. 2000 Bush 47.87% Gore 48.38% +.51%
45. 1960 Kennedy 49.72% Nixon 49.55% +.17%
46. 1880 Garfield 48.31% Hancock 48.22% +.09%
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I think Sting is gearing himself up for an argument that the Obama win was completely meaningless because it was not by some all time earth shattering record breaking margin and if he really was any good it would be by some all time earth shattering record breaking margin and thus seeing as it was not by some all time earth shattering record breaking margin it should not be considered much of an achievement let alone an all time earth shattering achievement especially considering the fact that 43,256 Republicans at some point have won an election somewhere for some role or office by a larger margin than Obama’s which is interesting seeing as Little San Francisco here clearly thought Obama would or should do better than Republican Bob Redneck from Nowhere Idaho who won his race for Mayor in 1832 by a margin of 92%!!!!! What went wrong with Obama? By the way, John McCain out did Barack Obama in that same Nowhere Idaho by a margin of 3-1. Clearly not everyone felt that Obama was the best agent for change, as Little San Francisco clearly thought.
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I think Sting is gearing himself up for an argument that the Obama win was completely meaningless because it was not by some all time earth shattering record breaking margin and if he really was any good it would be by some all time earth shattering record breaking margin and thus seeing as it was not by some all time earth shattering record breaking margin it should not be considered much of an achievement let alone an all time earth shattering achievement especially considering the fact that 43,256 Republicans at some point have won an election somewhere for some role or office by a larger margin than Obama’s which is interesting seeing as Little San Francisco here clearly thought Obama would or should do better than Republican Bob Redneck from Nowhere Idaho who won his race for Mayor in 1832 by a margin of 92%!!!!! What went wrong with Obama? By the way, John McCain out did Barack Obama in that same Nowhere Idaho by a margin of 3-1. Clearly not everyone felt that Obama was the best agent for change, as Little San Francisco clearly thought.


(I think you might be correct in your thinking. )
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In terms of the popular vote in the United States, here are the margins of victory in each election from 1824, the earliest election with complete popular vote data available, all the way up to 2004. The list is ranked based on the largest margins of victory down to the smallest in the popular vote.

1. 1920 Harding 60.32% Cox 34.15% +26.19%
2. 1924 Coolidge 54.04% Davis 28.82% +25.22%
3. 1936 Roosevelt 60.80% Landon 36.54% +24.26%
4. 1972 Nixon 60.67% McGovern 37.52% +23.15%
5. 1964 Johnson 61.05% Goldwater 38.47% +22.58%
6. 1904 Roosevelt 56.42% Parker 37.59% +18.83%
7. 1984 Reagan 58.77% Mondale 40.56% +18.21%
8. 1832 Jackson 54.74% Clay 36.93% +17.81%
9. 1932 Roosevelt 57.41% Hoover 39.65% +17.76%
10. 1928 Hoover 58.21% Smith 40.80% +17.41%
11. 1956 Eisenhower 57.37% Stevenson 41.97% +15.4%
12. 1912 Wilson 41.84% Roosevelt 27.40% +14.44%
13. 1836 Van Buren 50.79% Harrison 36.59% +14.2%
14. 1828 Jackson 55.93% Adams 43.68% +12.25%
15. 1856 Buchanan 45.29% Fremont 33.09% +12.2%
16. 1872 Grant 55.58% Greeley 43.78% +11.8%
17. 1952 Eisenhower 55.18% Stevenson 44.33% +10.85%
18. 1824 Adams 30.92% Jackson 41.36% +10.44%
19. 1860 Lincoln 39.65% Douglas 29.52% +10.13%
20. 1864 Lincoln 55.03% McClellan 44.95% +10.08%
21. 1940 Roosevelt 54.74% Willkie 44.78% +9.96%
22. 1980 Reagan 50.75% Carter 41.01% +9.74%
23. 1908 Taft 51.57% Bryan 43.04% +8.53%
24. 1996 Clinton 49.23% Dole 40.72% +8.51%
25. 1988 Bush 53.37% Dukakis 45.65% +7.72%
26. 1944 Roosevelt 53.39% Dewey 45.89% +7.5%
27. 1852 Pierce 50.83% Scott 43.88% +6.95%
28. 1900 McKinley 51.64% Bryan 45.52% +6.12%
29. 1840 Harrison 52.87% Van Buren 46.82% +6.05%
30. 1992 Clinton 43.01% Bush 37.45% +5.56%
31. 1868 Grant 52.66% Seymour 47.34% +5.32%
32. 1848 Taylor 47.28% Cass 42.49% +4.79%
33. 1948 Truman 49.55% Dewey 45.07% +4.48%
34. 1896 McKinley 51.02% Bryan 46.71% +4.31%
35. 1916 Wilson 49.24% Hughes 46.12 +3.12%
36. 1892 Cleveland 46.02% Harrison 43.01% +3.01%
37. 1876 Hayes 47.92% Tilden 50.92% +3%
38. 2004 Bush 50.73% Kerry 48.27% +2.46%
39. 1976 Carter 50.08% Ford 48.02% +2.06%
40. 1844 Polk 49.54% Clay 48.09% +1.45%
41. 1888 Harrison 47.80% Cleveland 48.63% +.83%
42. 1968 Nixon 43.42% Humphrey 42.72% +.7%
43. 1884 Cleveland 48.85% Blaine 48.28% +.57%
44. 2000 Bush 47.87% Gore 48.38% +.51%
45. 1960 Kennedy 49.72% Nixon 49.55% +.17%
46. 1880 Garfield 48.31% Hancock 48.22% +.09%
Interesting list.

Some of this would be apples and oranges though, with results from the 1800s in the mix. I think a decent point to evaluate would be since 1980. All elections since then have had roughly the same party political alignment and have been less then a 10% margin. I would personally use ~7% of the vote (admittedly, very arbitrary) as the cutoff between a successful campaign and a blowout win.
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Interesting list.

Some of this would be apples and oranges though, with results from the 1800s in the mix.
At what specific point in history did electoral victory margins matter enough?






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Frustration at falling behind Mr Obama in opinion polls has begun to boil into anger at Republican rallies with Mr McCain and Sarah Palin.

Events this week have been marked by ugly outbursts from crowds. In Clearwater, Florida, shouts of “kill him!” could be heard amid a chorus of boos when Mrs Palin attacked the Democratic nominee over his links with 1960s radical, Bill Ayers.

Journalists were reported to have been taunted with obscenities or racial insults from members of audience when Mrs Palin blamed the “mainstream media” for what she described as her “less-than-successful” - and much-parodied - television interviews.

At a rally on Monday in Albuquerque, New Mexico, Mr McCain asked: “Who is the real Barack Obama?” A man in crowd screamed back the reply: “Terrorist!”

The Republican nominee and his running mate cannot be blamed for such incidents. But their campaign is increasingly playing to the fears some voters harbour about the multi-ethnic background of Mr Obama - or paint him as a typical “Chicago politician” with ties to corrupt and dangerous individuals.


Anger consumes John McCain support as poll gap widens - Times Online
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I saw those video clips with the angry mob. Ugly. And pathetic that McCain just let those kinds of comments go by without a response. Sinking to new lows indeed.
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Oh man, Cindy Lou Who just said she thinks Obama has run the dirtiest campaign in history. Apparently she hasn't been paying much attention to her husband lately. Don't get Botox, kids, botulism kills your brain cells.
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im wondering how mitt would have fared in all this had he been nominated..
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im wondering how mitt would have fared in all this had he been nominated..
Nominated as the Republican candidate or nominated by McCain as the VP?
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almost at 1,000. New thread...

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