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Old 10-01-2008, 03:32 PM   #801
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Looks like the screws are coming loose for McCain:

McCain turns irritable, sarcastic in interview | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008 | Newsweek.com

...not to mention that half of his responses sound as discombobulated as Palin's.
You know, he seems out of touch

he says the majority of Americans agree with his decision

to pick Palin.

I seem to remember another president

Who is out of touch with reality.

$4 a gallon gas? "That's interesting, I haven't heard that."
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Old 10-01-2008, 03:34 PM   #802
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settle down

when I quoted that site

I got a reprimand
I'm getting a little tired of this.

You made two statements when you quoted that site - one was flat out FALSE and the other was a misstatement or misinterpretation of the statistics.

And now you're misrepresenting the "reprimand" - so I guess that's just par for the course. Disappointing.
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Looks like the screws are coming loose for McCain:

McCain turns irritable, sarcastic in interview | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008 | Newsweek.com

...not to mention that half of his responses sound as discombobulated as Palin's.
I just watched the video of the interview, I don't think it was as bad the article makes it out to be. He's a bit combative but not really anything different from other interviews. He keeps repeating that he respects their opinion, like ten times, it a bit weird.

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Video: John McCain with the Register's editorial board | DesMoinesRegister.com | The Des Moines Register
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just don't push him.... dude could have a stroke right there
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I just watched the video of the interview, I don't think it was as bad the article makes it out to be. He's a bit combative but not really anything different from other interviews. He keeps repeating that he respects their opinion, like ten times, it a bit weird.

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Video: John McCain with the Register's editorial board | DesMoinesRegister.com | The Des Moines Register
Yeah, I didn't think the video was as bad as the article mentioned...

But then again the article also left out the fact that it was a snoozefest... I'm sure he's tired, because there was no life in that meeting at all.
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Have you guys noticed - and maybe you have because I confess to not reading every page of all 9 (!) threads - the differing tone of the McCain vs. Obama ads? Obama's ads are all about having a plan etc, where McCain's are the typical negativity "Obama and his liberal buddies don't have a clue!!!11!". It's striking.
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Have you guys noticed - and maybe you have because I confess to not reading every page of all 9 (!) threads - the differing tone of the McCain vs. Obama ads? Obama's ads are all about having a plan etc, where McCain's are the typical negativity "Obama and his liberal buddies don't have a clue!!!11!". It's striking.
Before we can answer your question you must go back and read ALL 9 pages!! MuWHAAAAA

Ya i know what your saying. I was thinking today how during the Kerry/Bush election it seemed all those negative ads were sticking. Now it seems they are making McCain look desperate.

'bout damn time!
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i knew he gop shoulda chose mitt.

i tried to warn em.

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New CNN/Time polls released this afternoon:

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FLORIDA: Obama 51, McCain 47
MINNESOTA: Obama 54, McCain 43
MISSOURI: Obama 49, McCain 48
NEVADA: Obama 51, McCain 47
VIRGINIA: Obama 53, McCain 44
I didn't care that Obama was leading in national polls - I've always found national polls not particularly indicative of anything except maybe catching trends.

But the state polls are starting to come home to roost.
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i knew he gop shoulda chose mitt.

i tried to warn em.

I said he should have gone with Mitt too.

Mitt is smarmy but at least when you look at him you think "credible businessman" which would have helped during this financial clusterfuck to some degree.
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I said he should have gone with Mitt too.

Mitt is smarmy but at least when you look at him you think "credible businessman" which would have helped during this financial clusterfuck to some degree.

these are the days when you need an oily consultant rather than Mrs. Joe 6-Pack.

i can't believe the Missouri poll numbers. amazing.

and then there's this:

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Poll: Obama Hits a New High, Making Big Gains Among Women
By MASSIMO CALABRESI
Wed Oct 1, 2:10 PM ET

Propelled by concerns over the financial crisis and a return of support from female voters, Barack Obama has opened a formidable 7-point lead over John McCain, reaching the 50% threshold among likely voters for the first time in the general campaign for President, according to a new TIME poll.

Obama now leads McCain 50%-43% overall, up from 46%-41% before the parties' conventions a month ago. Obama's support is not just broader but sturdier; 23% of McCain supporters said they might change their mind, while only 15% of Obama's said they could be persuaded to switch.

Among the poll's most dramatic findings: McCain is losing female voters faster than Sarah Palin attracted them after the Republican National Convention. Obama leads McCain by 17 points with women, 55%-38%. Before the conventions, women preferred Obama by a margin of 10 points, 49%-39%. After McCain picked Palin as his running mate, the gap narrowed to a virtual tie, with Obama holding a 1-point margin, 48%-47%.

In a stark indication of just how much the political landscape has changed over the past four years, white women now favor Obama by three points, 48%-45%; in 2004, George W. Bush won the same demographic by 11 points against John Kerry. Where Bush carried married women by 15 points in that election, 57%-42%, Obama now leads by 6 points, 50%-44%, a 21-point shift.

Non-college-educated white women split virtually evenly, 46%-45% for McCain. By contrast, Obama remains weak among white men. That group supports McCain 57%-36% overall, and non-college-educated white men back the Republican ticket by an even greater margin, 63%-27%.

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Bush himself fares terribly in the poll. His approval rating is 23%, the lowest number ever found by Abt/SRBI, the company that conducted the poll for TIME; 73% of respondents disapprove of his performance as President. Only 26% approve of his handling of the current financial crisis.
a 73% disapproval rating is historic. it's shocking, even.
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these are the days when you need an oily consultant rather than Mrs. Joe 6-Pack.

i can't believe the Missouri poll numbers. amazing.

and then there's this:




and then there's this little gem:



a 73% disapproval rating is historic. it's shocking, even.
These poll numbers are impressive, no doubt. But I wish all the Dem's in here would quit being so giddy - there's more than a month to go. Doesn't anyone remember 2004??? Be happy and positive but quit jumping up and down with glee until the day after the election. Just look how things have changed in 2 weeks!!!
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a 73% disapproval rating is historic. it's shocking, even.
But they made a movie about him, so he must be doing something right...right?
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These poll numbers are impressive, no doubt. But I wish all the Dem's in here would quit being so giddy - there's more than a month to go. Doesn't anyone remember 2004??? Be happy and positive but quit jumping up and down with glee until the day after the election. Just look how things have changed in 2 weeks!!!


i'm more surprised than giddy. i'm very cautious, i know what can happen, and i know that a week is a lifetime in politics.

however, in 2004, John Kerry never led George Bush. he only began to gain and in some polls pull close to even after he eviscerated Bush in the first debate. but it wasn't enough.

right now, we have clear Obama gains and the McCain campaign looks increasingly disorganized, like someone's decapitated the chicken.

but, no, i'm not giddy. i'm cautiously optimistic.
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Ha! I read Harry's comment and was just about to say "I see no giddy here, I see cautious optimism."

Gimme my brain back.
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These poll numbers are impressive, no doubt. But I wish all the Dem's in here would quit being so giddy - there's more than a month to go. Doesn't anyone remember 2004??? Be happy and positive but quit jumping up and down with glee until the day after the election. Just look how things have changed in 2 weeks!!!
That's a very good point- this happened. We're witnessing a massive voter shift to Obama right now, but by it's very nature that includes weakly decided voters. I think Obama is in a stronger position because the economy isn't going away before November 4th, but dramatic events will inevitably happen, too, and some might help McCain.

That said, it's better to be up by a lot with a month to go then not being up by a lot with a month to go.
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What? No, another conservative or right-wing option other than the loathsome Rush Limbaugh. Anything must be better than that guy.

no..... there is another [Ooooopps sorry wrong forum ; ] is someone worse than el rushbo.....
FYM'rs I give you (some have mentioned him)....
Michael Savage. ( & take him puleeeeze)
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People like Al Franken have tried to compete with him and lost. Rush Limbaugh is very convincing and does more research than mainstream media by far.
... Randi Rhoades has beat Rushbo in many radio market ratings
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I just think Rush is an irritating blowhard, is all.
he is quite rascist at times, and that is way more than irritatring.
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Michael Savage.
Ugh, agreed. That man is a blight upon humanity.
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