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This was not a good speech by Obama
__________________it was not as bad as "bitter people clinging to religion" speech and sure, all his fans didn't see much wrong with that either I read remarks like "he is just telling it, like it is" Obama had a "give me" in Oregon with that picture of 70,000 All he had to do was say "Yes we can" a few times "Change we can believe in." etc. My guess is that a majority of the attendees drove there in SUV's. Oregon is a state where SUVs are a natural choice for people with the Oregon terrain and climate. This shows he is a "novice" candidate once again. There is a way to talk up enviroment policies in a positive way. To suggest that we will be at the mercy of "the world" is not the way to do it. |
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Although technology won't ever make over eating and wasting responsible. |
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3 percent ??? The U S A is closer to 5 percent of the world popuilation. Why must Obama keep diminishing the U S. He won't wear a flap pin. Place his hand over his heart. and now he is diminishing our place in the world by 40% ![]() Is this the change we are supposed to believe in. ![]() wave wink |
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We all know Kentucky will go for Hillary
and Oregon will go for Obama. What does Oregon think? Quote:
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Hiiiary wins Kentucky by 36%
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#967 |
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We're really seeing the fringes on both sides of the primary race here in FYM. Neither side is doing the party or country any good.
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it falls well under change. a nice change from "the jury is out on global warming" or that the best way to respond to terrorist attacks is to go shopping or to continue offering welfare to oil companies. Quote:
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praised Hillary and said God Bless America a little late but still a "change" many will appreciate. |
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He is also considered likely to get an appointment in an Obama Administration. What is his motivation for these remarks? |
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when will Hillary
scold her supporters and tell them that it is WRONG to vote against someone only because he is black? how long must we wait? the countdown begins. |
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It is very disappointing to hear that people are saying they will not vote for Obama because he is Black.
There are legitimate reasons not to vote for Obama, his race is not one. However, it does not bother me when Black Americans seem to give his race priority over other qualifications. |
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Are we all that surprised that a foreign nation would have a considerably lopsided opinion of another nation's leader? I'm pretty sure that we could see similar lopsided views if you asked the American public whether they had a favorable view of Iran's president, for instance. The media has long determined what the acceptable answer to that question is (just as it seems to be in every country), whether one likes it or not, and very few are going to study a subject like this in-depth and come to their own conclusions.
Canada, as expected, is obviously more nuanced when it comes to its own internal politics. Why else would they have elected a Conservative government into power, albeit even in a minority government position? One could argue that it was more of a vote against the Liberal scandals of the last several years--e.g., a vote against one party, rather than a vote in favor of another. I'd say that that pretty much sums up the 2000 and 2004 presidential elections here. It was less of a vote of confidence for Bush, and more of a vote against the Democratic Party. The American public sure did pick an odd time to vote that way, though. |
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The reason I found it interesting is two-fold. First, Canadians had a very favourable view of Bill Clinton, and the Clintons in general. Given that we've already had a female PM (useless to the Nth degree, she was), there is also a lack of that underlying "can a woman make it??" mentality that still exists in some force in the US. Second, Alberta has voted more solidly conservative than Texas or any of the other southern US states. I don't believe they've elected a liberal in something like 70 years. Now, granted our Conservative party is really economically conservative and has given up entirely on pontificating about right wing social causes, but let's not forget that Alberta was solidly in support of the Reform Party (which merged with the Progressive Conservatives to form the Conservatives). And the Reform Party was, well, not all together there, and spouted many (most?) of the current Republican favourites. Most notably, immigration reform (read: xenophobia), anti-gay rights, and so on.
You can be absolutely sure that the media isn't feeding any kind of Obama lovefest out in AB. |
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Oops, time to start a new thread.
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