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I think this is one that Hillary wishes did not happen. Quote:
Until about this point Obama was seen as transcending race. The context that he would talk down his "grandma" rubbed many people the wrong way. Net score 7/10 Quote:
Obama did not say these things or stand up and shout 'hallelujah! 9/10 His association and many references to Wright make this association costly for Obama with many voters net score 4/10 It gave Obama the opportunity to give his Race Speech, this speech has been universally received as a great speech Quote:
9/10 the remarks were spun as "racial" and it stuck in the press net effect 8/10 perception is reality Quote:
7/10 The perception - old white lady makes "bigoted" remark. net score 6/10 Quote:
Why don't people in small towns vote for you? Answer, "We need to do a better job of getting our message out." net score 5/10 this is dissipating, even a bad story has a "life" cycle. this one will not completely go away but with as much talk about it. People will get tired of hearing about it. Quote:
net score 3/10 Everyone knows McCain is the candidate that supports the Iraq mission. So this is news. |
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because this is what the election should be about. not health care, not Iraq, not the coming recession, not education. it should be about who said what and when and how people are going to feel about it. |
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it's the tyranny of the bottom line. when it's only about ratings, it's a race to the bottom. |
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I am watching now Hillary gave a very good answer about VP she said she would work very hard to elect the Dem Nominee. Obama is still stumbling on his "bitter" gaffe his team should have had him super prepped for this question, they had to expect it. |
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1. hagee is as relevant as wright, but the bigger issue, as i've noted, is that the Republican Party as a whole has a far closer relationship to the religious right -- hagee being one of it's leaders -- than the democrats do to any sort of preacher like Wright, and this manifests itself in dangerous, false science abstinence programs that endanger young lives. there are real consequences to being in bed with the religious right. 2. 100 years -- this is about Iraq. 3. his temper -- a less relevant issue, certainly |
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If Obama is supposed to be about HOPE and DREAMING
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"Hillary can Obama win?"
Hillary, "Yes, but I think I would be the better candidate." she is smooth |
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again, worrying about these things is what got Bush elected twice. we can't be all things to all people, and when we try, we lose. stand for something, and the rest can fuck off. |
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i didn't see the debate.
but reading through the blogs, it seems everyone thinks it was a travesty and embarrassment and an hour long pile up on Obama. |
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I am just responding in real time to this debate
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Obama has the youth vote tied up I think there is a lot of idealism and expectations with young people and this campaign |
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even the biggest Obama supporters i read are saying he tanked this one. but that Clinton took Rovian politics to a new height, which means a new low for the campaign. that ABC News did little more than carry water for the Republicans, and that John McCain is the big winner. note the ABC News comments section, almost 7,000 comments so far, all decrying the debate: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Democ...ory&id=4666956 |
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A poll on the Drudge Report shows Obama winning 62%-38%
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