US 2008 Presidential Campaign/Debate Discussion Thread - The Fifth Installment - Page 13

BVS · 03-26-2008, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by diamond

When you insert the word "but" you lose your credibility with people. Most communication experts agree with this.

I like Deep, BUT his brother is cooler...

Yeah, you're right, no one would really believe me.

diamond · 03-26-2008, 10:59 AM

Hillary has a radio active personality, this is in fact is why many view her as having shrew like attributes.

The same people on the other side who recoil at Newt not because of his substance but because of his lofty meat headedness, don't have a melt down and schreech-

"Oh Reverse sexism, oh reverse sexism!"

Some political people have likeable personalities, and some don't.
It's that simple.

What's even more unfair for Newt is that he has a higher IQ than any candidate running now, but isn't likeable.

dbs

diamond · 03-26-2008, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BonoVoxSupastar

I like Deep, BUT his brother is cooler...

Yeah, you're right, no one would really believe me.

deep=is calulative like Hillary.
<>= Jack Bauer like.

Who do you want watching your back?

dbs

BVS · 03-26-2008, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by diamond

deep=is calulative like Hillary.
<>= Jack Bauer like.

Who do you want watching your back?

dbs

Chuck Norris...

diamond · 03-26-2008, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by martha

If you would stick to assessments like this which do not involve name-calling specific to gender, a lot more people would start to take you seriously.

i post to inject vigor on occassion.

dbs

MrsSpringsteen · 03-26-2008, 11:05 AM

shrew- A woman with a violent, scolding, or nagging temperament; a scold.

As in "the taming of"

ThesaurusLegend: Synonyms Related Words Antonyms

Noun 1. shrew - a scolding nagging bad-tempered woman
termagant
disagreeable woman, unpleasant woman - a woman who is an unpleasant person
virago - a noisy or scolding or domineering woman
yenta - (Yiddish) a vulgar shrew; a shallow coarse termagant

"screech" reverse sexism?

When people start calling Newt a shrew we can talk. Apples and oranges..double standards.

diamond · 03-26-2008, 12:35 PM

Ppl call Newt worse names and nobody has a melt down.

dbs

diamond · 03-26-2008, 02:52 PM

Obama girl offering Hill some love and advice:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YwVBpsO51QY&feature=bz301

A Hill supporter from So America:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hg1LEsSeYJw

sexyness!

U2democrat · 03-26-2008, 03:24 PM

Obama girl's songs get stuck in my head

The videos crack me up though

Irvine511 · 03-26-2008, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by diamond
Ppl call Newt worse names and nobody has a melt down.

dbs

people like Newt's mom call HRC worse things indeed.

diamond · 03-26-2008, 04:33 PM

I'm sure Hillary recovered faster than you.

dbs

Irvine511 · 03-26-2008, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by diamond
I'm sure Hillary recovered faster than you.

dbs

?

diamond · 03-26-2008, 04:57 PM

twasn't that big of a deal to her, esp since she supposedly acts and thinks more like her male counterparts, correct?

dbs

**Diemen** · 03-26-2008, 05:05 PM

You're digging yourself a hole here, dbs. Try and dance around it all you want, but when you show pics comparing her to a witch, call her a "shrew instead of a lady," you are being sexist. Period.

Martha's right, too. You'd have a lot more credibility around here if you left those kinds of comments and lame pictures out.

MrsSpringsteen · 03-26-2008, 05:50 PM

Who is having a "meltdown"? So melodramatic.

Show me a man with similar personality traits that Hillary has and show me you calling him the male equivalent of a shrew (is there such a word, hmmm) and posting witch pictures when referring to him and making other sexist comments about him. You are completely blind to the double standard you display here, as others have told you here-not just me. Until you can criticize Senator Clinton in a non-sexist way I'll continue to point it out.

diamond · 03-26-2008, 06:04 PM

ok fine.

im exhausted.

i hereby declare that from this point on

i'm not commenting on hill for the next *72 hrs.

unless she does something really stoopid.

ok, fine.

see u kids on Sunday.

g'bye

dbs

U2democrat · 03-26-2008, 06:21 PM

MrsSpringsteen · 03-26-2008, 06:26 PM

A new poll from the NBC and the Wall Street Journal finds that voters have problems voting for a candidate of McCain's age, apparently far more than object to supporting either an African American or female candidate. MSNBC's Norah O'Donnell previewed the poll earlier today (the full results will be announced later tonight):

O'DONNELL: Here's what the voters think according to a brand new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released just this afternoon. 71% say Americans are ready to elect a woman as president, 20% say no. The results are nearly identical when voters were asked whether Americans were ready to elect an African-American as president. 72% said yes and 18% said no. We will have more on this NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll tonight.

We also asked about in that number about McCain's age and how many people want to elect someone his age. Less people want to elect someone McCain's age than want to elect an African-American or a woman. We're going to have more of those poll results. NBC Washington bureau chief Tim Russert will have more of those details on NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams and of course on Hardball tonight.

U2democrat · 03-26-2008, 06:28 PM

If this poll were conducted 4 years ago, and Hillary and Barack were not in the picture, I wonder if those African American v. Female numbers would be any different.

MrsSpringsteen · 03-26-2008, 06:33 PM

Well I guess now we have ageism too. I wonder what the specific concerns about his age are. Health issues? Mental faculties? If it was his 90 whatever year old mother running, that I could understand.

03-26-2008, 10:59 AM	#242
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 05:08 AM	Hillary has a radio active personality, this is in fact is why many view her as having shrew like attributes. The same people on the other side who recoil at Newt not because of his substance but because of his lofty meat headedness, don't have a melt down and schreech- "Oh Reverse sexism, oh reverse sexism!" Some political people have likeable personalities, and some don't. It's that simple. What's even more unfair for Newt is that he has a higher IQ than any candidate running now, but isn't likeable. dbs __________________

03-26-2008, 06:33 PM	#260
MrsSpringsteen Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 28,459 Local Time: 07:08 AM	Well I guess now we have ageism too. I wonder what the specific concerns about his age are. Health issues? Mental faculties? If it was his 90 whatever year old mother running, that I could understand. __________________

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03-26-2008, 11:05 AM	#246
MrsSpringsteen Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 28,459 Local Time: 07:08 AM	shrew- A woman with a violent, scolding, or nagging temperament; a scold. As in "the taming of" ThesaurusLegend: Synonyms Related Words Antonyms Noun 1. shrew - a scolding nagging bad-tempered woman termagant disagreeable woman, unpleasant woman - a woman who is an unpleasant person virago - a noisy or scolding or domineering woman yenta - (Yiddish) a vulgar shrew; a shallow coarse termagant "screech" reverse sexism? When people start calling Newt a shrew we can talk. Apples and oranges..double standards.

03-26-2008, 12:35 PM	#247
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 05:08 AM	Ppl call Newt worse names and nobody has a melt down. dbs

03-26-2008, 03:24 PM	#249
U2democrat Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: England by way of 'Murica. Posts: 22,142 Local Time: 12:08 PM	Obama girl's songs get stuck in my head The videos crack me up though

03-26-2008, 04:33 PM	#251
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 05:08 AM	I'm sure Hillary recovered faster than you. dbs

03-26-2008, 04:57 PM	#253
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 05:08 AM	twasn't that big of a deal to her, esp since she supposedly acts and thinks more like her male counterparts, correct? dbs

03-26-2008, 05:05 PM	#254
Diemen Resident Photo Buff Forum Moderator Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Somewhere in middle America Posts: 13,685 Local Time: 06:08 AM	You're digging yourself a hole here, dbs. Try and dance around it all you want, but when you show pics comparing her to a witch, call her a "shrew instead of a lady," you are being sexist. Period. Martha's right, too. You'd have a lot more credibility around here if you left those kinds of comments and lame pictures out.

03-26-2008, 05:50 PM	#255
MrsSpringsteen Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 28,459 Local Time: 07:08 AM	Who is having a "meltdown"? So melodramatic. Show me a man with similar personality traits that Hillary has and show me you calling him the male equivalent of a shrew (is there such a word, hmmm) and posting witch pictures when referring to him and making other sexist comments about him. You are completely blind to the double standard you display here, as others have told you here-not just me. Until you can criticize Senator Clinton in a non-sexist way I'll continue to point it out.

03-26-2008, 06:04 PM	#256
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 05:08 AM	ok fine. im exhausted. i hereby declare that from this point on i'm not commenting on hill for the next *72 hrs. unless she does something really stoopid. ok, fine. see u kids on Sunday. g'bye dbs

03-26-2008, 06:21 PM	#257
U2democrat Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: England by way of 'Murica. Posts: 22,142 Local Time: 12:08 PM

03-26-2008, 06:26 PM	#258
MrsSpringsteen Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 28,459 Local Time: 07:08 AM	A new poll from the NBC and the Wall Street Journal finds that voters have problems voting for a candidate of McCain's age, apparently far more than object to supporting either an African American or female candidate. MSNBC's Norah O'Donnell previewed the poll earlier today (the full results will be announced later tonight): O'DONNELL: Here's what the voters think according to a brand new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released just this afternoon. 71% say Americans are ready to elect a woman as president, 20% say no. The results are nearly identical when voters were asked whether Americans were ready to elect an African-American as president. 72% said yes and 18% said no. We will have more on this NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll tonight. We also asked about in that number about McCain's age and how many people want to elect someone his age. Less people want to elect someone McCain's age than want to elect an African-American or a woman. We're going to have more of those poll results. NBC Washington bureau chief Tim Russert will have more of those details on NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams and of course on Hardball tonight.

03-26-2008, 06:28 PM	#259
U2democrat Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: England by way of 'Murica. Posts: 22,142 Local Time: 12:08 PM	If this poll were conducted 4 years ago, and Hillary and Barack were not in the picture, I wonder if those African American v. Female numbers would be any different.