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Old 01-27-2008, 08:15 AM   #921
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I'm not happy with the reult of the primary.
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Jesus wants your vote — and he needs a running mate
By Matthew Streib, Religion News Service

WASHINGTON — He walked on water, he turned water to wine, and now he wants to be your candidate for president.

That's right, it's Jesus who should be the next leader of the free world, according to a website launched this month called www.JesusIn2008.com.

It invites voters to shape his platform, even nominate a contemporary running mate in this electronic nominating convention, then use the results to guide their real votes in November.

The Jesus running in 2008 is not divine but rather "Jesus the man, the revolutionary individual who comes to us through history as a model for ethical and moral human behavior," says the site's creator, Stephen Heffner.

"I'm probably not alone in feeling that somehow we are not getting the best possible candidates for president or the best possible process," says Heffner, a former newspaper reporter and a non-practicing Catholic.

"My sense is that if Jesus were here, he would do the right thing, without needing a political strategist giving him what he thinks people want to hear."

Heffner wants the debate to be intellectual and pragmatic, tempered with examples from the Bible, not a back-and-forth of sweeping dogma.

There are only three rules on the site: no miracles, no preaching and no rude behavior.

After all, if Jesus were to use miracles to solve the energy crisis or fund Social Security, strategic debate would be pointless.

So far, Mike Huckabee and California Attorney General Jerry Brown have been floated as possible VPs.

And delegates parse Jesus' positions on issues such as health care (he doesn't trust HMOs), the environment (he would be pro-conservation) and church-state separation ("Does Jesus have to recuse himself on this one?" one person asked).

The Rev. Jim Wallis, the progressive evangelical founder of Sojourners/Call to Renewal and author of the new book The Great Awakening: Reviving Faith & Politics in a Post-Religious Right America, says finding a candidate in Jesus' image isn't a political panacea.

"The Sermon on the Mount would not be a political platform. Changes in society are like reforms; you make one, and then you make another," Wallis says.

Jacques Berlinerblau, who teaches at Georgetown University and is author of Thumpin' It: The Use and Abuse of the Bible in Today's Presidential Politics, says the site "will let the secularists and non-believers get their ya-yas out because it'll be funny to see evangelicals and fundamentalists fume."

But, he says, if people seriously discuss "what Jesus would want as a candidate, it could make people think harder about the choices they make in the political process."

Would he vote for Jesus?

"Perhaps," Berlinerblau says. "The Jesus that I've constructed in my mind, the Jesus that I like, but that's my Jesus.

"When you ask people, 'Would you want Jesus to be your president?' people would almost always answer yes, but different people have different Jesuses. It's when Jesus enters the public sphere that people start to argue."
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Janet Reno endorses Clinton

Former U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno, who served in Bill Clinton's administration, is backing his wife in Tuesday's presidential primary.

Reno, who ran for governor in 2002 and served as Miami-Dade State Attorney, is one of Florida's best-known politicians. "She's got a large statewide following in Florida,'' said Ana Cruz, who leads a volunteer group called Hillary for Florida.

A Miami Herald poll last week showed that women voters favor Clinton over chief rival Barack Obama, 45 to 21 percent. But Florida's highest ranking female Democrat, Chief Financial Officer Alex Sink, has stayed neutral in the race.

"We haven't stopped pursing her endorsement,'' Cruz said.
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Janet Reno endorses Clinton

that endorsement will seal her fate.

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What's your problem with her, is she a shrew too?
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No witch pictures of Ms Reno? Google not working?
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PENSACOLA, Florida (CNN) – Mitt Romney's failure to eat fried chicken with the skin on is nothing short of blasphemy here in the South, according to GOP rival Mike Huckabee.

Romney, of Massachusetts, dug into a piece fried chicken at KFC while campaigning in Lutz, Florida on Saturday, but not before peeling off what most would consider the best part — the crispy skin.

Admittedly, KFC's chicken doesn't exactly stack up against the delectable kind that comes out of deep fryers in kitchens around the South, and Romney said he was looking for the healthiest option available to him for lunch.

Huckabee, looking ahead to a flotilla of southern states up for grabs on Super Tuesday, was told about the move by a reporter here in the Florida panhandle.

"I can tell you this," he said, "any Southerner knows if you don’t eat the skin don’t bother calling it fried chicken."

"So that's good. I'm glad that he did that, because that means I'm going to win Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Arkansas, Oklahoma … all these great Southern states that understand the best part of fried chicken is the skin, if you're going to eat it that way."

Huckabee admitted that he hasn't eaten fried chicken in a while because of his weight loss program, preferring it broiled or baked instead.

And speaking of possible gaffes, a good Southerner might also dispute one of Huckabee's claims: since when is Oklahoma "a great southern state"?
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I really hope the Clinton campaign changes its' mind on pulling this stuff, it is on the verge of doing her in for good. How can they not see that?

Lost is on Thursday night, I will debate watch during the commercials. Maybe Hillary could send Bill to the Lost island until the election is over.


January 28, 2008
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By WILLIAM KRISTOL, NY Times

In the run-up to Saturday’s South Carolina primary, Bill Clinton repeatedly denounced racial divisions in American politics. Indeed, he said Friday in Spartanburg, Americans are “literally aching to live in a post-racial future.”

But Clinton certainly hasn’t been hastening that day. Quite the contrary. In Charleston, on Wednesday, he disingenuously remarked: “As far as I can tell, neither Senator Obama nor Hillary have lost votes because of their race or gender. They are getting votes, to be sure, because of their race or gender — that’s why people tell me Hillary doesn’t have a chance of winning here.”

Really? Who was telling him that?

Hillary was ahead in South Carolina polls as recently as early December. And in fact, women made up 61 percent of the Democratic electorate in South Carolina, blacks 55 percent. If Obama was getting votes because of race and Hillary because of gender, Hillary had a perfectly good chance to win. Bill Clinton’s excuse is unconvincing and unseemly.

Then on Saturday, in Columbia, pre-spinning his wife’s imminent defeat, Clinton reminded reporters out of the blue that “Jesse Jackson won South Carolina twice, in ’84 and ’88. And he ran a good campaign. And Senator Obama’s run a good campaign here. He’s run a good campaign everywhere.”

What do Jesse Jackson’s victories two decades ago have to do with this year’s Obama-Clinton race? The Obama campaign is nothing like Jackson’s. Obama isn’t running on Jackson-like themes. Obama rarely refers to Jackson.

Clinton’s comment alludes to one thing, and to one thing only: Jackson and Obama are both black candidates. The silent premise of Clinton’s comment is that Obama’s victory in South Carolina doesn’t really count. Or, at least, Clinton is suggesting, it doesn’t mean any more than Jackson’s did.

But of course — as Clinton knows very well — Jesse Jackson didn’t win (almost all-white) Iowa. He didn’t come within a couple of points of prevailing in (almost all-white) New Hampshire. Nor did he, as Obama did, carry white voters in rural Nevada. And Saturday, in South Carolina, even after Bill Clinton tried to turn Obama into Jackson, Hillary defeated Obama by just three to two among white voters

So Bill Clinton has been playing the race card, and doing so clumsily. But why is he playing any cards? He wasn’t supposed to be in the game. But just as Hillary was supposed to be finding her own voice, Bill decided to barge in, and to do so with a vengeance. This has been no favor to Hillary.

The proof is in the South Carolina results. Bill Clinton became the dominant story in the last few days of that campaign. According to the exit polls, about one in five South Carolina Democrats decided whom to vote for in the last three days. Among those late deciders, Hillary Clinton received only 21 percent of the vote compared with 27 percent overall. In South Carolina, many of those falling off from Clinton seemed to go to Edwards. Next week, with Edwards much less of a factor, won’t many such voters go all the way to Obama?

Right now, Hillary Clinton is ahead in the polls in almost all the big states voting. She is a tough and capable campaigner, and she may be able to hold on to those leads. But it is now clear that putting her in the White House brings a hyperactive Bill back in with her. Who needs it? Liberals and Democrats can get basically the same policies without the Clinton baggage, and in choosing Obama, they can nominate a more electable candidate.

So Hillary’s advantage in the polls will, I suspect, erode. The erosion could be hastened by the expected endorsement of Obama by Ted Kennedy on Monday. It could be helped further along if Al Gore hops aboard the Obama bandwagon later in the week. Meanwhile, Tom Daschle, the Senate Democratic leader during most of the Clinton presidency, is actively supporting Obama. Talk to Democrats in D.C., and it’s amazing how many who know the Clintons well — many of whom worked in the Clinton administration — are eager that they not return to the White House.

This week, the Clinton team will dump every bit of opposition research it has on Obama. We’ll see how Obama responds.

But the moment of truth could come at the Democratic debate Thursday, in Los Angeles. Edwards may have dropped out by then. If so, it will be a one-on-one showdown. Even if he’s there, he’ll be effectively a bystander. Will Obama hold his own?

I’d say that even if you’ve (understandably) skipped the previous debates, this is one to tune into. I had a dinner scheduled Thursday night. I’m canceling it. The Giants probably won’t beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl. But this could be the week Obama upsets the Clintons.
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Breaking News: Rudy Giuliani hints at dropping out




The least qualified candidate to be treated as a contender!


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Rudy Giuliani appears to be pondering an end to his long pursuit of the Republican presidential nomination.

In a meeting in the back of his chartered plane en route to St. Petersburg, Fla., a short while ago, the onetime, longtime GOP front-runner told a small group of reporters, including The Times' Louise Roug: "The winner of Florida will win the nomination."

He then went on to predict he would win. And his spokeswoman, Maria Comella, said later he was speaking with confidence.

But that's an unusually categorical statement suggesting that only a total first-place upset by Giuliani, who trails both Mitt Romney and John McCain in all major polls for Florida's Republican primary tomorrow, will keep him in the competition, despite previous repeated vows to continue.

Giuliani's campaign, which led in national polls when it began and stayed there for many months, is showing signs of serious financial fatigue. This month his top staffers are foregoing their paychecks so the maximum amount of money can be invested to salvage his political fortunes in the Sunshine State, which was where Giuliani's late-state strategy was to kick into high gear.
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That I can agree with.
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I hope Huckabee beats him in FL tomorrow.

and he comes in 4th

he will get out on Wednesday.

he won't have the balls to stay in 6 more days and let NY's vote go on the record
- what they think of "America's Mayor".
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I hope Huckabee beats him in FL tomorrow.

and he comes in 4th

he will get out on Wednesday.

he won't have the balls to stay in 6 more days and let NY's vote go on the record
- what they think of "America's Mayor".
I hope he gets out before Super Tuesday. He would undoubtedly endorse McCain if he did.
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he is a coward

he will get out before next Tuesday
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I hope Huckabee beats him in FL tomorrow.

and he comes in 4th

he will get out on Wednesday.

he won't have the balls to stay in 6 more days and let NY's vote go on the record
- what they think of "America's Mayor".
Well, at least we agree on something these days
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I saw that photo on MSNBC last night...pretty interesting.

They also showed footage of Obama coming down the aisle and how he looked like the president because he had this entourage behind him and people were clamoring to shake his hand and speak to him.

Don't know about Hillary.
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unless W is your role model
It's obvious that the picture was caught at just the right time to look that way, but if you look at Hilary's eyes, they aren't directed at Obama, and she's clasping the white haired guy's hand.
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