US 2008 Presidential Campaign/Debate Discussion Thread - Part III - Page 33

U2democrat · 01-10-2008, 02:44 PM

Kerry's got millions of contacts and potential contributors...yes he helps.

deep · 01-10-2008, 02:56 PM

That's ok

Kerry has a history of being "for" something
then "againt" it.

Once we get a couple more primaries over
we will see who or what he is "for", then.

U2democrat · 01-10-2008, 03:07 PM

Oh come on deep, you know better than that

namkcuR · 01-10-2008, 03:11 PM

Obama ought to request a private meeting with Edwards...

Offer him a guarantee of the VP spot should he(Obama) win the nomination in exchange for his(Edwards') dropping out ASAP.

Obama needs Edwards' votes.

U2democrat · 01-10-2008, 03:15 PM

Edwards would never go for VP again, and I don't blame him. He does need to drop out though.

namkcuR · 01-10-2008, 03:21 PM

Why do you say that? After the New Hampshire debate, lots of people were saying that it was obvious Edwards wanted to be Obama's VP.

There's no way in hell he's going to be president, so if he really wants to be in a position of power and get things done, why not take VP?

2861U2 · 01-10-2008, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by U2democrat
Edwards would never go for VP again

You don't think he'd accept? I bet he would. The thing is, I'm not sure if he'd be offered it. Would Obama risk a VP that failed last time?

U2democrat · 01-10-2008, 03:28 PM

What makes you think he would? He wants to be on the top of the ticket and after 2004 I don't think he would settle for the bottom again.

deep · 01-10-2008, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by namkcuR
Obama ought to request a private meeting with Edwards...

Offer him a guarantee of the VP spot should he(Obama) win the nomination in exchange for his(Edwards') dropping out ASAP.

Obama needs Edwards' votes.

Perhaps a seat on the Supreme Court would be more appealing (not financially) to Edwards.

Of course it would probably take a 60 Dems in the Senate to get it up for a vote.

U2democrat · 01-10-2008, 03:30 PM

Edwards was doing a fine job with his poverty center at UNC, I'd like to see him continue to do something like that.

coemgen · 01-10-2008, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by U2democrat
What makes you think he would? He wants to be on the top of the ticket and after 2004 I don't think he would settle for the bottom again.

What's so dishonorable about getting the VP nod? I think he would have a much better chance of getting it this time. If it doesn't work out, then he can go back to whatever.

MrsSpringsteen · 01-10-2008, 04:21 PM

I think the best ticket would be Hillary and Obama, in any order

yolland · 01-10-2008, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by coemgen
What's so dishonorable about getting the VP nod? I think he would have a much better chance of getting it this time. If it doesn't work out, then he can go back to whatever.

I think she may have been referring to what by the end of Kerry's campaign was the painfully obvious fact that he and Edwards weren't getting along at all (purportedly they weren't even on speaking terms), which had to be pretty humiliating for Edwards.

I do like the idea of an Obama/Edwards ticket, but I can understand skepticism as to whether Edwards would accept that. Obama/Clinton (or Clinton/Obama) is hard for me to imagine right now--I have a hard time seeing either of them being willing to play second fiddle to the other when they could continue to focus on their Senate careers instead.

MrsSpringsteen · 01-10-2008, 05:16 PM

COLUMBIA, South Carolina (CNN) – In the race for presidential endorsements, Mike Huckabee has the kitschy pop culture celebrity vote on lockdown.

First it was martial arts hero and "Walker, Texas Ranger" star Chuck Norris, who appears with Huckabee in his first TV ad.

Then hard-rocking hunting enthusiast Ted Nugent jumped on the Huckabee bandwagon, citing the Republican's support for second amendment rights.

Now, Huckabee is getting ready to rumble: wrestler Ric Flair, a.k.a. The Nature Boy, is supporting the former Arkansas governor in his bid for the White House.

CNN has learned the WWE wrestler is on board with Huckabee, and will co-host a campaign tailgate with the candidate at the South Carolina vs. Clemson football game on Saturday afternoon in Columbia, South Carolina. More details are forthcoming.

MrsSpringsteen · 01-10-2008, 05:19 PM

I believe John Kerry allegedly commented on Edwards talking about his deceased son Wade and accused him of using it politically, I recall reading that somewhere. So I can't imagine Edwards wants anything to do with him or even cares about his endorsement.

Infinity · 01-10-2008, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by yolland

I think she may have been referring to what by the end of Kerry's campaign was the painfully obvious fact that he and Edwards weren't getting along at all (purportedly they weren't even on speaking terms), which had to be pretty humiliating for Edwards.

Why weren't they getting along? I've never this, what happened?

U2democrat · 01-10-2008, 05:58 PM

Not everybody gets along. Their personalities clashed, I think they had some disagreements over how the campaign should be run

yolland · 01-10-2008, 06:12 PM

Yeah, I don't know that there was ever any detailed inside info on their relationship made public. There were vague insider insinuations at the time that Kerry felt Edwards wasn't sufficiently supportive of him, that Edwards in turn felt straitjacketed by Kerry, that Kerry would have really preferred Dick Gephardt all along and made that obvious, that Kerry regarded Edwards' talking publically about the effects of his son's death on him as distasteful, that their New-England-reserve/Southern-loquaciousness personalities clashed, that just in general the two of them had never 'clicked' socially despite having been acquainted for years, etc., etc.

LyricalDrug · 01-10-2008, 08:10 PM

Young voters propelled Hillary to NH victory -- cool:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7823.html

Infinity · 01-10-2008, 09:56 PM

Did McCain just say that al-Qaeda wants to trade Burkhas with the U.S.?

01-10-2008, 02:44 PM	#641
U2democrat Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: England by way of 'Murica. Posts: 22,142 Local Time: 11:43 AM	Kerry's got millions of contacts and potential contributors...yes he helps. __________________

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deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,602 Local Time: 04:43 AM	That's ok Kerry has a history of being "for" something then "againt" it. Once we get a couple more primaries over we will see who or what he is "for", then. __________________

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01-10-2008, 03:07 PM	#643
U2democrat Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: England by way of 'Murica. Posts: 22,142 Local Time: 11:43 AM	Oh come on deep, you know better than that

01-10-2008, 03:11 PM	#644
namkcuR ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 10,763 Local Time: 07:43 AM	Obama ought to request a private meeting with Edwards... Offer him a guarantee of the VP spot should he(Obama) win the nomination in exchange for his(Edwards') dropping out ASAP. Obama needs Edwards' votes.

01-10-2008, 03:15 PM	#645
U2democrat Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: England by way of 'Murica. Posts: 22,142 Local Time: 11:43 AM	Edwards would never go for VP again, and I don't blame him. He does need to drop out though.

01-10-2008, 03:21 PM	#646
namkcuR ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 10,763 Local Time: 07:43 AM	Why do you say that? After the New Hampshire debate, lots of people were saying that it was obvious Edwards wanted to be Obama's VP. There's no way in hell he's going to be president, so if he really wants to be in a position of power and get things done, why not take VP?

01-10-2008, 03:28 PM	#648
U2democrat Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: England by way of 'Murica. Posts: 22,142 Local Time: 11:43 AM	What makes you think he would? He wants to be on the top of the ticket and after 2004 I don't think he would settle for the bottom again.

01-10-2008, 03:30 PM	#650
U2democrat Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: England by way of 'Murica. Posts: 22,142 Local Time: 11:43 AM	Edwards was doing a fine job with his poverty center at UNC, I'd like to see him continue to do something like that.

01-10-2008, 04:21 PM	#652
MrsSpringsteen Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 28,459 Local Time: 06:43 AM	I think the best ticket would be Hillary and Obama, in any order

01-10-2008, 05:16 PM	#654
MrsSpringsteen Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 28,459 Local Time: 06:43 AM	COLUMBIA, South Carolina (CNN) – In the race for presidential endorsements, Mike Huckabee has the kitschy pop culture celebrity vote on lockdown. First it was martial arts hero and "Walker, Texas Ranger" star Chuck Norris, who appears with Huckabee in his first TV ad. Then hard-rocking hunting enthusiast Ted Nugent jumped on the Huckabee bandwagon, citing the Republican's support for second amendment rights. Now, Huckabee is getting ready to rumble: wrestler Ric Flair, a.k.a. The Nature Boy, is supporting the former Arkansas governor in his bid for the White House. CNN has learned the WWE wrestler is on board with Huckabee, and will co-host a campaign tailgate with the candidate at the South Carolina vs. Clemson football game on Saturday afternoon in Columbia, South Carolina. More details are forthcoming.

01-10-2008, 05:19 PM	#655
MrsSpringsteen Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 28,459 Local Time: 06:43 AM	I believe John Kerry allegedly commented on Edwards talking about his deceased son Wade and accused him of using it politically, I recall reading that somewhere. So I can't imagine Edwards wants anything to do with him or even cares about his endorsement.

01-10-2008, 05:58 PM	#657
U2democrat Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: England by way of 'Murica. Posts: 22,142 Local Time: 11:43 AM	Not everybody gets along. Their personalities clashed, I think they had some disagreements over how the campaign should be run

01-10-2008, 06:12 PM	#658
yolland Forum Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 7,471 Local Time: 12:43 PM	Yeah, I don't know that there was ever any detailed inside info on their relationship made public. There were vague insider insinuations at the time that Kerry felt Edwards wasn't sufficiently supportive of him, that Edwards in turn felt straitjacketed by Kerry, that Kerry would have really preferred Dick Gephardt all along and made that obvious, that Kerry regarded Edwards' talking publically about the effects of his son's death on him as distasteful, that their New-England-reserve/Southern-loquaciousness personalities clashed, that just in general the two of them had never 'clicked' socially despite having been acquainted for years, etc., etc.

01-10-2008, 08:10 PM	#659
LyricalDrug Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: SF Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 3,213 Local Time: 03:43 AM	Young voters propelled Hillary to NH victory -- cool: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7823.html