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Old 01-07-2008, 03:35 PM   #501
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she's not commander in chief material.

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Bush doesn't cry...
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She's perfectly capable of being Commander In Chief. I don't know anything about her crying, haven't read about it. But there's nothing wrong with crying, and I don't trust people who don't cry. Men should cry some more too, and in public. I want a commander in chief who isn't afraid to cry.
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Bush doesn't cry...
He makes baby Jesus cry.
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Because he is Commander in Chief material.

See what Diamond's getting at here?
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usually when a canidate has an emotional breakdown on the campaign trail-it's the beginning of the end for that candidate.

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Mitt Romney teared up twice recently in tv interviews, where's the big to do over that?


PORTSMOUTH, N.H. — Hillary Rodham Clinton's eyes welled up and her voice broke repeatedly Monday as she talked with voters in a restaurant about her campaign for the presidency. The former first lady was making a last-minute pitch for support as she spoke on the eve of the state's primary, with polls showing her trailing Democratic rival Barack Obama.

Asked by a sympathetic voter how she keeps going in the grueling campaign, she replied, "It's not easy. It's not easy."

"And I couldn't do it if I just didn't, you know, passionately believe it was the right thing to do," she said, her voice catching.

"You know, I've had so many opportunities from this country, I just don't want to see us fall backwards," she said, her voice trailing off. The voters crowded into the restaurant applauded encouragingly.

"So," she continued, then paused, seemingly to control her voice as her listeners applauded again. "You know, this is very personal for me. It's not just political. It's not just public. I see what's happening, and we have to reverse it. And some people think elections are a game. They think it's like who's up or who's down.

"It's about our country. It's about our kids' futures. It's really about all of us together. You know some of us put ourselves out there and do this against some pretty difficult odds. And we do it, each one of us, because we care about our country. But some of us are right and some of us are wrong. Some of us are ready and some of us are not."

She concluded, "And so when we look at the array of problems we have and the potential for it getting really spinning out of control, this is one of the most important elections America's ever faced. So as tired as I am and I am and as difficult as it is to try to kind of keep up with what I try to do on the road like occasionally exercise and try to eat right. It's tough when the easiest food is pizza . I just believe so strongly in who we are as a nation so I'm going to do everything I can to make my case and, you know, then the voters get to decide."

After she spoke several of the people in the Cafe Espresso audience crowded around Clinton and offered sympathetic support.
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THAT is an emotional breakdown??

Typical diamond nonsense, I see.
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usually when a canidate has an emotional breakdown on the campaign trail-it's the beginning of the end for that candidate.
Emotional breakdown? Not according to that description I posted. Your idol Mitt has been crying too, is that why his is over?
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Emotional breakdown? Not according to that description I posted. Your idol Mitt has been crying too, is that why his is over?
No, there are 2 different reasons.

Mitt's emotional struggle was due to a recollection of an event in his life that he recalled.

Hillary is crying because she is tanking in the polls.

Therein lies the difference.

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Candidate has another teary moment
Says he's not ashamed of having emotions

By Michael Levenson, Boston Globe Staff | December 19, 2007

After his eyes filled with tears for the third time in as many weeks on the presidential campaign trail, Mitt Romney explained that, no, he is not immune to sadness and grief.

"I'm a normal person. I have emotions," Romney told reporters in New Hampshire. "I'm not ashamed of that at all."

And yet several former associates said yesterday they were struck by the sudden display of emotion from a man known more for crunching data and giving PowerPoint presentations.

"I never saw him mist up during the 2002 campaign," said Ben Coes, who managed that campaign for governor. "I was talking about it with my wife this morning. I think it shows a level of toughness and confidence to be able to talk about something that obviously touches you emotionally in front of an audience."

Romney first noteworthy misty-eyed moment of the campaign came at the end of his nationally televised speech on faith and politics earlier this month in Texas. As the invited crowd stood and applauded, the usually unflappable Republican paused, the emotion showing on his face. "God bless this great land, God bless the United States of America," he declared.

He showed unusual emotion again on Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press," when he recalled the moment in 1978 when he heard that the Mormon Church had ended its ban on full participation by black members.

"I heard it on the radio and I pulled over and literally wept," Romney said.

On Monday at a Londonderry, N.H., military contractor, Romney told a stock campaign story about watching the casket of a US soldier killed in Iraq come off the conveyor belt of a plane at Logan International Airport in Boston. The soldiers he was with saluted and passengers in the terminal paused and put their hands on their hearts, he said.

But then, as he added a new twist to the story, his eyes welled again. "I have five boys of my own," he said. "I imagined what it would be like to lose a son in a situation like that."

That moment prompted reporters to ask him whether he was showing a different side - and Romney to respond that he was just acting like anyone else.

Still, Samuel L. Popkin, a pollster who worked for the famously lip-biting Bill Clinton in 1992 and for the decidedly less demonstrative Al Gore in 2000, said such moments could help Romney loosen up his image.

Voters "want to know that what they're getting is real and not the sales pitch, and emotion is one way of knowing there's a real person and not just a plastic wind-up doll or a scripted person," Popkin said.

For Romney, "being too articulate and too handsome are real problems because both of those give the sense of total polish - like there's a veneer there where the real person should be," Popkin said.

Several prominent supporters, however, rejected any political calculation for the recent weepiness.

"For however perfect his hair is, he is a human being," said Adam D. Probolsky, a pollster who is chairman of Romney's campaign in Orange County, Calif.

And just because he gets misty, does not mean he is weak, the supporters said.

"When he's president and there's a natural disaster, I'm pretty darn sure that he ain't going to be breaking down into tears and looking for his blankie," Probolsky said. "He's going to be making things happen and getting things done. But when you're running for office you sometimes show more of who you are."

Representative Bradley H. Jones Jr., Republican leader in the Massachusetts House, said Romney is typically more restrained because of his background as a management consultant and private equity investor.

"Mitt Romney is an emotional guy," Jones said yesterday. "I think by upbringing and experience in the business world, you don't really show your emotions. There's almost a stoicism where you show your emotions inside your family and you don't let them out publicly."
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No, there are 2 different reasons.

Mitt emotional struggle was due to a recollection of an event in his life that he recalled.

Hillary is crying because she is tanking in the polls.

Therein lies the difference.

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Uh, OK. Sounds to me like she's just tired and stressed out.

I'm sure Mitt's emotions are perfect. You must be inside of both of their heads and hearts.
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By the way NBC Nightly News will have a behind the scenes segment and interview with Obama tonight.

Brian Williams + Barack Obama =
Bill O'Reilly + Barack Obama = hell freezing over
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Uh, OK. Sounds to me like she's just tired and stressed out.

exactly.

not commander in chief material.

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Bill O'Reilly + Normal Human Volume + Common Sense = Hell Freezing Over
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exactly.

not commander in chief material.

So Presidents never get tired and stressed out? Bullshit. How do you know how much Bush cries in private? If he doesn't get tired and stressed out then he is even less human than I thought.
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exactly.

not commander in chief material.

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But when Mitt does it, it's OK because you know the reasons why?

Well done.
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exactly.

not commander in chief material.

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you're right. it's much better when Presidents don't bother to sweat the thinking through their actions. that way, they never get stressed out or worried. God is on their side. isn't that enough?
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Oh come on it's Diamond... His standards for Hillary are completely different than anyone else.

One action for Mitt makes him aggresive and strong, the same action would make Hillary a bitch...

One action for Bush would make his sensitive, the same action would make Hillary weak...

We should all know the formula by now.
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