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Old 12-22-2007, 01:13 PM   #321
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I like this guy more and more...

He just makes sense, something I can't say about most politicians.
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:Pray: If Obama will get Arnold the hell out of California, I will vote for him and tell all my friends to do so.
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ABC's Sunlen Miller Reports: Barack Obama has often said he'd consider putting Republicans in his cabinet and even bandied about names like Sens. Dick Lugar and Chuck Hagel. He's a added a new name to the list of possible Republicans cabinet members - Arnold Schwarzenegger.

This is just silly

it may sway a few independents

who don't realize these people are what GOPers call RINOs

Those three could not get elected in GOP primary

Arnold is only in office because if a recall



Next we will have a GOP candidate say he is open to working with Lieberman.
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Old 12-22-2007, 04:35 PM   #324
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Next we will have a GOP candidate say he is open to working with Lieberman.
Right. I was just thinking that.

Lugar and Hagel are probably not toward the top of most Republicans' "Favorite Republicans" lists. Certainly not mine, anyways. Both of them happen to be anti-Iraq War, and that is far from what I would call reaching across the aisle.
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Well, why would any anti-Iraq war person want to have a cabinet member who's for the war?

He's not looking for a cabinet with views completely opposite him. That would just be stupid.
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I may not choose people who oppose my viewpoint for my cabinet. But I would damn well choose many advisors who did not share my point of view. While it might be nice to have a bunch of people telling me "Great idea, boss," I'd want some who would tell me, "With all due respect, Madame President, you're a stupid fuck and here's why." I want all the options presented to me.
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Old 12-23-2007, 08:26 AM   #327
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I heard Senator Lugar speak at the 2004 Africare dinner. He was good. He's a smart man.
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Old 12-23-2007, 08:27 AM   #328
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Well, why would any anti-Iraq war person want to have a cabinet member who's for the war?

He's not looking for a cabinet with views completely opposite him. That would just be stupid.
John F. Kennedy did not surround himself with yes men.
Clinton did not surround himself with yes men.

Bush has....what do you think?
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Obama would put Schwarzenegger in his cabinet? Good grief!
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Obama would put Schwarzenegger in his cabinet? Good grief!
No. That's good. It'll get him the hell out of here.
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This seems about right



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Early odds in U.S. presidential race

By Albert R. Hunt
Bloomberg News

Sunday, December 23, 2007
The gates are about to open for the American presidential race. The early odds, if history is an indicator, will be close to the mark.

Looking at bookmakers in Las Vegas and London, and the crystal balls of a few seasoned political practitioners from both parties, a clear line has emerged.



The fundamentals - the country's mood, the political cycle, the likely shape of the economy and the movement of certain constituencies like Latinos and young voters - all tilt Democratic.

Thus, lay down 7 to win 5 on a Democrat's taking the presidential oath of office 13 months from now, 2 to 1 that it's a Republican, and 20 to 1 on an independent or third-party candidate.

The odds for the Democrats to win the presidency include:

HILLARY CLINTON: 3 to 1.

BARACK OBAMA: 3.5 to 1.

JOHN EDWARDS: 10 to 1.

Of Senators Christopher Dodd and Joseph Biden and Governor Bill Richardson, - the rest of the field combined has odds of 40 to 1.

The Republican calculations are dicier:

MITT ROMNEY: 5-to-1 odds.

JOHN McCAIN: 8-to-1 odds he faces.

RUDOLPH GIULIANI: 10 to 1.

MIKE HUCKABEE: 12-to-1 shot.

FRED THOMPSON: 20 to 1.

The odds on any other Republican are 25 to 1,


In 8 of the past 10 elections, the party that settled its nomination first won the presidency in November.
http://www.iht.com/bin/printfriendly.php?id=8875160
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Looks right to me too. It'll be interesting to see what January 3rd brings.
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In 8 of the past 10 elections, the party that settled its nomination first won the presidency in November.
I think this holds the most weight.

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But does that include incumbents? Because that would skew the statistic some.
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But does that include incumbents? Because that would skew the statistic some.
Exactly, that stat doesn't mean shit...
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No. That's good. It'll get him the hell out of here.
Yeah, you want him the hell out of California don't you?
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Yeah, you want him the hell out of California don't you?
Yes. :Pray:
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Old 12-25-2007, 11:23 AM   #338
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mine, arnold could move in w me and come swiming everyday
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Sounds like a plan!
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