US 2008 Presidential Campaign/Debate Discussion Thread - Part Catorce! - Page 39

diamond · 02-24-2008, 07:34 PM

...desperation
in temptation..

dbs

**Diemen** · 02-24-2008, 07:35 PM

Nice, dbs

sulawesigirl4 · 02-24-2008, 08:24 PM

Yeah, I saw that yesterday. It really took me aback. Yelling at your opponent "Shame on you!" just can't look good. Specially when you're accusing him of doing something that your own campaign engages in.

MrsSpringsteen · 02-25-2008, 12:58 PM

politico.com

Obama slams smear photo
By: Mike Allen
February 25, 2008 11:42 AM EST

Obama campaign manager David Plouffe accused the Clinton campaign Monday of "shameful offensive fear-mongering" by circulating a photo as an attempted smear.

Plouffe was reacting to a banner headline on the Drudge Report saying that aides to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) had e-mailed a photo calling attention to the African roots of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).

"The photo, taken in 2006, shows the Democrat front-runner dressed as a Somali Elder, during his visit to Wajir, a rural area in northeastern Kenya," the Drudge Report said. The photo created huge buzz in political circles and immediately became known as "the 'dressed' photo," reflecting the Drudge terminology.

Plouffe said in a statement: “On the very day that Senator Clinton is giving a speech about restoring respect for America in the world, her campaign has engaged in the most shameful, offensive fear-mongering we’ve seen from either party in this election. This is part of a disturbing pattern that led her county chairs to resign in Iowa, her campaign chairman to resign in New Hampshire, and it’s exactly the kind of divisive politics that turns away Americans of all parties and diminishes respect for America in the world," said Plouffe.

The Clinton campaign issued an official response to the growing tempest - but the statement from campaign manager Maggie Williams did not respond to the central question of whether staffers circulated the photo.

“Enough,” Williams said in the statement. “If Barack Obama's campaign wants to suggest that a photo of him wearing traditional Somali clothing is divisive, they should be ashamed. Hillary Clinton has worn the traditional clothing of countries she has visited and had those photos published widely.

“This is nothing more than an obvious and transparent attempt to distract from the serious issues confronting our country today and to attempt to create the very divisions they claim to decry. We will not be distracted.”

deep · 02-25-2008, 01:39 PM

Some people say "words matter"

well, unfortunately

with the american electorate dumbed down

pictures probably, matter more

and remember
we are only considering a couple of states that will flip this election

MrsSpringsteen · 02-25-2008, 01:45 PM

I think the only thing that will matter about that Obama picture is how bad it will make Senator Clinton look for her aides bringing it up. It is all starting to look so nasty and desperate. They really seem to have no idea how people of all types are almost protective of Senator Obama, and how they look in contrast to his dignity. It is all going to backfire on them, and who would be that dumbed down that a picture like that would even matter to them? It's just like calling him Osama at this point.

diamond · 02-25-2008, 01:54 PM

I don't know if the constituency of the Democratic Party is bright enough to reject the photo, or see it for what it is.

dbs

MrsSpringsteen · 02-25-2008, 01:56 PM

Probably not-we're all a bunch of morons

deep · 02-25-2008, 02:04 PM

We are in a primary process and

it is Texas we are talking about

and blue collar Ohio.

deep · 02-25-2008, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrsSpringsteen
Probably not-we're all a bunch of morons

are you licking necks?

deep · 02-25-2008, 02:12 PM

Quote:

It's just like calling him Osama

is this for real

2861U2 · 02-25-2008, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by deep

is this for real

Yikes.

corianderstem · 02-25-2008, 02:35 PM

you know what? never mind.

(response originally was in retort to diamond's trolling)

diamond · 02-25-2008, 03:45 PM

still buddies, right?

phillyfan26 · 02-25-2008, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by diamond

still buddies, right?

Outside of FYM, sure.

diamond · 02-25-2008, 03:53 PM

you're very close to being on my buddy list.

phillyfan26 · 02-25-2008, 03:53 PM

Moving on up from the Ignore List!

U2isthebest · 02-25-2008, 04:02 PM

Is the Ohio debate tonight or is that later this week? I haven't been paying much attention to the news over the past couple days.

2861U2 · 02-25-2008, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by U2isthebest
Is the Ohio debate tonight or is that later this week? I haven't been paying much attention to the news over the past couple days.

I think it's tomorrow night.

U2democrat · 02-25-2008, 04:11 PM

Tomorrow night at 9pm moderated by Brian Williams and Tim Russert on MSNBC

02-24-2008, 07:34 PM	#761
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sulawesigirl4 Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,416 Local Time: 07:14 PM	Yeah, I saw that yesterday. It really took me aback. Yelling at your opponent "Shame on you!" just can't look good. Specially when you're accusing him of doing something that your own campaign engages in. __________________ "I can't change the world, but I can change the world in me." - Bono

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02-25-2008, 12:58 PM	#764
MrsSpringsteen Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 28,480 Local Time: 08:14 PM	politico.com Obama slams smear photo By: Mike Allen February 25, 2008 11:42 AM EST Obama campaign manager David Plouffe accused the Clinton campaign Monday of "shameful offensive fear-mongering" by circulating a photo as an attempted smear. Plouffe was reacting to a banner headline on the Drudge Report saying that aides to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) had e-mailed a photo calling attention to the African roots of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.). "The photo, taken in 2006, shows the Democrat front-runner dressed as a Somali Elder, during his visit to Wajir, a rural area in northeastern Kenya," the Drudge Report said. The photo created huge buzz in political circles and immediately became known as "the 'dressed' photo," reflecting the Drudge terminology. Plouffe said in a statement: “On the very day that Senator Clinton is giving a speech about restoring respect for America in the world, her campaign has engaged in the most shameful, offensive fear-mongering we’ve seen from either party in this election. This is part of a disturbing pattern that led her county chairs to resign in Iowa, her campaign chairman to resign in New Hampshire, and it’s exactly the kind of divisive politics that turns away Americans of all parties and diminishes respect for America in the world," said Plouffe. The Clinton campaign issued an official response to the growing tempest - but the statement from campaign manager Maggie Williams did not respond to the central question of whether staffers circulated the photo. “Enough,” Williams said in the statement. “If Barack Obama's campaign wants to suggest that a photo of him wearing traditional Somali clothing is divisive, they should be ashamed. Hillary Clinton has worn the traditional clothing of countries she has visited and had those photos published widely. “This is nothing more than an obvious and transparent attempt to distract from the serious issues confronting our country today and to attempt to create the very divisions they claim to decry. We will not be distracted.”

02-25-2008, 01:39 PM	#765
deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,602 Local Time: 05:14 PM	Some people say "words matter" well, unfortunately with the american electorate dumbed down pictures probably, matter more and remember we are only considering a couple of states that will flip this election

02-25-2008, 01:45 PM	#766
MrsSpringsteen Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 28,480 Local Time: 08:14 PM	I think the only thing that will matter about that Obama picture is how bad it will make Senator Clinton look for her aides bringing it up. It is all starting to look so nasty and desperate. They really seem to have no idea how people of all types are almost protective of Senator Obama, and how they look in contrast to his dignity. It is all going to backfire on them, and who would be that dumbed down that a picture like that would even matter to them? It's just like calling him Osama at this point.

02-25-2008, 01:54 PM	#767
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 05:14 PM	I don't know if the constituency of the Democratic Party is bright enough to reject the photo, or see it for what it is. dbs

02-25-2008, 01:56 PM	#768
MrsSpringsteen Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 28,480 Local Time: 08:14 PM	Probably not-we're all a bunch of morons

02-25-2008, 02:04 PM	#769
deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,602 Local Time: 05:14 PM	We are in a primary process and it is Texas we are talking about and blue collar Ohio.

02-25-2008, 02:35 PM	#773
corianderstem Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 64,498 Local Time: 05:14 PM	you know what? never mind. (response originally was in retort to diamond's trolling)

02-25-2008, 03:45 PM	#774
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 05:14 PM	still buddies, right?

02-25-2008, 03:53 PM	#776
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 05:14 PM	you're very close to being on my buddy list.

02-25-2008, 03:53 PM	#777
phillyfan26 Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 30,343 Local Time: 07:14 PM	Moving on up from the Ignore List!

02-25-2008, 04:02 PM	#778
U2isthebest ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Vision over visibility.... Posts: 12,332 Local Time: 08:14 PM	Is the Ohio debate tonight or is that later this week? I haven't been paying much attention to the news over the past couple days.