US 2008 Presidential Campaign/Debate Discussion Thread - Part Catorce!

[LemonMelon]

Originally posted by 2861U2


And if there ever was a draft, I wouldn't break my leg to avoid it.

Forgive me for asking, but does this mean you would willingly join the military if called upon, or would you just not try very hard to weasel out of it?

Personally, I'm a selfish bastard like Pfan. I don't want to be cannon fodder, thank you very much.

[2861U2]

Originally posted by LemonMelon


Forgive me for asking, but does this mean you would willingly join the military if called upon, or would you just not try very hard to weasel out of it?

If there was a draft, I would willingly sign up and not try to get out of it.

[Earnie Shavers]

Even if HRC was your CIC, and you absolutely did not believe that the war being fought was neither right nor necessary?

[phillyfan26]

Originally posted by LemonMelon
Personally, I'm a selfish bastard like Pfan. I don't want to be cannon fodder, thank you very much.

I don't even think it's selfish. I think the entire concept behind the draft is bullshit.

If people really think there's a war worth fighting and that the country needs them, plenty will sign up. They shouldn't have to be forced into it.

[LemonMelon]

Originally posted by phillyfan26


I don't even think it's selfish. I think the entire concept behind the draft is bullshit.

If people really think there's a war worth fighting and that the country needs them, plenty will sign up. They shouldn't have to be forced into it.

Well, I was being sarcastic. It's not selfish, I agree.

[2861U2]

Originally posted by Earnie Shavers
Even if HRC was your CIC, and you absolutely did not believe that the war being fought was neither right nor necessary?

Well I would need an example. All wars are different and waged for different reasons, so I don't want to give a general "yes" answer.

[phillyfan26]

I know, I just wanted to springboard it into a mini-rant.

[Vincent Vega]

Someone is very happy:

[deep]

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

I got a 10 foot banner across the street from me

except the EVOL is mirror reversed to read LOVE


The guy is my tenant
he will be moving, shortly.

[Dreadsox]

Originally posted by phillyfan26


I don't even think it's selfish. I think the entire concept behind the draft is bullshit.

If people really think there's a war worth fighting and that the country needs them, plenty will sign up. They shouldn't have to be forced into it.

I disagree with your point of view. There is a danger here that comes from having a volunteer service. A draft keeps the American voter in tune with what we are asking of the armed forces. There is less of a connection for American voters now more than ever due to the fact that we are not worried about our sons and daughters being drafted. If there were this added pressure, there would be a definite gut check and voters would keep the politians more in check.

[joyfulgirl]

Originally posted by martha


I'll back your play on that. I have a nephew just a year or two younger than you.

Me, too. And his parents are die-hard Republicans. Every kid needs a leftie auntie.

[deep]

endorsement!!

[deep]

SIMI VALLEY: California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is poised to give his endorsement to Republican presidential front-runner John McCain, US media reported on Wednesday.

CNN television network cited two Republican sources as saying that discussions with Schwarzenegger were ongoing about securing the popular former Hollywood action hero's endorsement.

Later Wednesday, the Los Angeles Times reported on its website that Schwarzenegger was set to give his endorsement, possibly on Thursday.

An endorsement from Schwarzenegger, who was re-elected California's leader in a landslide 2006 victory and who remains popular, would be a major coup for McCain heading into the delegate-rich state's primary contest. CNN reported earlier that conversations with Schwarzenegger were ongoing with a view to a possible announcement on Thursday.

[unico]

Originally posted by Canadiens1160
RON PAUL REVOLUTION

lol.

[A_Wanderer]

Originally posted by Dreadsox


I disagree with your point of view. There is a danger here that comes from having a volunteer service. A draft keeps the American voter in tune with what we are asking of the armed forces. There is less of a connection for American voters now more than ever due to the fact that we are not worried about our sons and daughters being drafted. If there were this added pressure, there would be a definite gut check and voters would keep the politians more in check.

Conscription is state slavery.

[deep]

Originally posted by onebloodonelife
if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, Obama will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda..

al Qaeda will be in Iraq for a long, long time
they are still in Afghanistan
so Obama has allowed himself to make an open-ended commitment for keeping troops in Iraq for years and years


As I have been saying lately
Obama is Republican-lite

he is pandering to GOP during the Democratic primaries
he would be a push over > if he gets elected

[phillyfan26]

Originally posted by Dreadsox
I disagree with your point of view. There is a danger here that comes from having a volunteer service. A draft keeps the American voter in tune with what we are asking of the armed forces. There is less of a connection for American voters now more than ever due to the fact that we are not worried about our sons and daughters being drafted. If there were this added pressure, there would be a definite gut check and voters would keep the politians more in check.

So, we threaten military service to one group of people (young) to get another group of people (adults) to pay more attention to politics?

I think it's great that you want people to pay more attention, and I agree with that sentiment, but that's horrible, horrible logic. In fact, downright scary logic.

[phillyfan26]

Originally posted by joyfulgirl
Me, too. And his parents are die-hard Republicans. Every kid needs a leftie auntie.

[martha]

Originally posted by joyfulgirl


Me, too. And his parents are die-hard Republicans. Every kid needs a leftie auntie.

I only have that problem on one side of the family. The dad there is a dutiful and obedient Christian as well. Whatever his church tells him to do, he does. Steve and I had been a bad influence there for years.

[martha]

Originally posted by phillyfan26


So, we threaten military service to one group of people (young) to get another group of people (adults) to pay more attention to politics?

I think it's great that you want people to pay more attention, and I agree with that sentiment, but that's horrible, horrible logic. In fact, downright scary logic.

Especially when it would be your ass on the line, not the guy who thinks it's such a great idea.