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Old 05-29-2008, 02:20 AM   #41
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The people that showed up at the polls and took the time to vote had no control over when the primary was held.

Why not have a solution that punishes the people that are responsible?

Any delegate that is a state legislator who voted in favor of moving up the state primary should be barred from the convention.
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The people that showed up at the polls and took the time to vote had no control over when the primary was held.

Why not have a solution that punishes the people that are responsible?

Any delegate that is a state legislator who voted in favor of moving up the state primary should be barred from the convention.



the people who showed up and voted broke the rules. what about the people who stayed home and didn't vote -- and followed the rules -- because they were told that their votes wouldn't count. are they to be disenfranchised?
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I for one am looking forward to spending my Saturday watching the coverage of the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee meeting I've got the ready.
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The people that showed up at the polls and took the time to vote had no control over when the primary was held.

Why not have a solution that punishes the people that are responsible?

Any delegate that is a state legislator who voted in favor of moving up the state primary should be barred from the convention.

I am so frustrated and disheartened with this process so much right now, being a voter from Michigan who participated in the January primary. Ugh.
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I am so frustrated and disheartened with this process so much right now, being a voter from Michigan who participated in the January primary. Ugh.
In 1789, African-Americans were defined in the Constitution as 3/5 of a person for counting representation.


In 2008 you have been defined by the DNC as 1/2 of a person for counting representation.

We have come a long way.
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I am so frustrated and disheartened with this process Ugh.
Well, perhaps if you were a non-citizen in prison for attempted murder

you would get a full vote in the Democratic Primaries.



Can some one please tell me why these people have a vote in choosing the Democrat nominee?

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BAYAMON, Puerto Rico (AP) — Arturo Vazquez is locked up for assault and robbery, but he and hundreds of other prisoners may have a say in choosing the next president of the United States, casting early ballots Friday in Puerto Rico's key Democratic primary.

This Spanish-speaking Caribbean territory lets imprisoned felons vote. And Sunday's primary is hugely important: It may clinch the nomination for Sen. Barack Obama or buoy his rival, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Vazquez made no bones about his choice after he voted in one of several curtained cardboard booths erected in a lunchroom with steel tables.

It wasn't Clinton.

"No woman should ever be president of the United States. It ought to be a man," said the burly convict with dark, close-cropped hair and a gray prison jumpsuit. He told a reporter he marked an 'X' for Sen. Barack Obama on the ballot which he slipped into a cardboard box.

But some other inmates at Correctional Institute 501 in this San Juan suburb argued that it's time for a female president.

A dozen inmates interviewed by The Associated Press at the compound of white buildings surrounded by barbed wire said they were grateful for the opportunity to help nominate a future American president.

Elliot Dones, 32, serving a seven-year sentence for robbery, said he is excited that the United States is showing interest in what Puerto Ricans have to say.

"I feel great. I feel mostly that we matter to the United States," said Dones, who voted for Clinton.

Omar Gonzalez, counting down a prison sentence for attempted murder, hopes Puerto Rico's economy is strong enough to give him a job when he is released — and believes that will depend in part on policy decisions made in Washington and who wins the presidency.
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In 1789, African-Americans were defined in the Constitution as 3/5 of a person for counting representation.


In 2008 you have been defined by the DNC as 1/2 of a person for counting representation.

We have come a long way.
course its only fair to point out that the reasons and motivations for the definition are quite different.

I'm not really sure what I think about the whole Michigan/Florida debacle so don't read this as some sort of closet Obama-agenda-pushing. I just think that this is misrepresentation of the situation. African Americans were so defined because of slavery and racial prejudice, these voters are so defined in effort to resolve the issue of those states breaking the DNC rules. It's not meant to--nor does it--disparage or diminish their humanity.

Just sayin, is all. . .
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course its only fair to point out that the reasons and motivations for the definition are quite different.

I'm not really sure what I think about the whole Michigan/Florida debacle so don't read this as some sort of closet Obama-agenda-pushing. I just think that this is misrepresentation of the situation. African Americans were so defined because of slavery and racial prejudice, these voters are so defined in effort to resolve the issue of those states breaking the DNC rules. It's not meant to--nor does it--disparage or diminish their humanity.

Just sayin, is all. . .
Deep's posts are more powerful the less you actually analyze them.

Now you've just gone and ruined it.

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McCain says using Google to vet VP candidates

Mon Jun 9, 4:56 PM ET

It turns out choosing a vice president isn't that complicated after all.

Republican presidential candidate John McCain joked on Monday that Google, the popular Internet search engine, had made investigating his list of potential candidates a little bit easier.

"You know, basically it's a Google," he said to laughter at a fund-raising luncheon when asked how the selection process was going. "What you can find out now on the Internet -- it's remarkable. I learned I have a pet name for my wife."
McCain could be reading our posts.
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McCain could be reading our posts.
Sadly, Interference doesn't show up till the 7th page of google results - I checked.
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rumor mongering at its worst

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Actress has a crush on Obama

By: Jeffrey Ressner

June 10, 2008 02:31 PM EST

Every presidential candidate can use a sexy blonde movie star to liven up his campaign, appear at big money events and rally the entertainment community. Sen. Barack Obama’s go-to Hollywood hottie is Scarlett Johansson, a starlet who trades frequent e-mails with the presumptive Democratic nominee. Johansson met Obama several times,one-on-one on many occasions.

Could Scarlet be the "Whitey" that has someone so upset?

or is this rumor mongering at its worst?
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or is this rumor mongering at its worst?



i vote for this option.
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If it comes down to a question of judgment.

Obama vs. McCain




Obama wins.
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Can you imagine what a racist, Black Panther like Michelle Obama would do if she found out her husband is half....WHITE?!?!?!?!11111
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Can you imagine what a racist, Black Panther like Michelle Obama would do if she found out her husband is half....WHITE?!?!?!?!11111



i'm sure she'd kill her 1/4 white babies dead.
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^It's easier to numb the pain if she thinks of them as 75% black.
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^It's easier to numb the pain if she thinks of them as 75% black.


it's true, she might look at them as little radicalists in training who's inculcated self-loathing of their 25% white blood will make them that much more powerful when The Revolution comes and the streets run with the blood of Whitey.

i'll bet those little girls have been taught the terrorist fist-jab since the day they were born.
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^Yeah, I knew the Obamas were terrorists when I saw them do that fist jab. I believe a similar picture of Bin Laden and Saddam doing one was Bush's key piece of intelligence for invading Iraq.
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Happ-y birth-day Missster Pres-i-dent
happ-y birtttth-day tooooooyouuuuuu.
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^Yeah, I knew the Obamas were terrorists when I saw them do that fist jab. I believe a similar picture of Bin Laden and Saddam doing one was Bush's key piece of intelligence for invading Iraq.
sure, go ahead and make light of the situation

do you ever wonder why Obama asked

"Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately?"


Why do you think the Obamas shop at Whole Foods???????


What item is number one? on the terrorist shopping list?
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