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But still, there is no sign of that Obama Tsunami. Provided McCain/Palin win Ohio, Virginia, and Colorado, they are going to win the election regardless of the popular vote. Latest poll in Colorado has McCain/Palin ahead by two points. |
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the state flower of Minnesota is the pink and white lady slipper. |
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now that the election has shifted back to actual issues instead of "lipstick on a pig" and "sex ed for 5 year olds," that can only mean bad news for McCain. it's terribly obvious to everyone that McCain doesn't have any grasp of economic issues, and nearly all of the actual issues themselves heavily favor the Democrats. McCain had hoped to start another culture war with the pick of Palin, but as her favorability ratings continue to plummet in the polls, her inexperience and lack of any comprehensive understanding of any national issues are going to make her a liability. thus, he'll have to manufacture another distraction, and quickly, if he doesn't want to be too far behind before the first debate begins. i wonder what they'll cook up? Quote:
are you really going to keep this up? the tsunami thing? some polls have Obama ahead in OH and tied in FL. |
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Hey, apparently paying higher taxes is patriotic, according to Joe.
![]() Well geeze, that just makes me want to vote for Obama/Biden, then. God Bless America! |
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conclude what you will. is he punishing Zapatero over Iraq in neocon fashion? or what? |
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Apparently, things have happened in Spain I don't know of, yet.
Oh, no, they just elected a left-leaning government that kept its promise to pull out of Iraq. Evil regime. |
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the focus on issues such as the economy and not sideshow distractions are what is directly contributing to Obama's clear and continued rise in the polls. in addition, Palin's novelty factor is wearing off and her demonstrated lack of knowledge in the Gibson interview didn't help either. you are correct that it is Republicans, including McCain, who are to be faulted for the current crisis. this is why he is suffering in the polls. it is because of the policies that McCain has supported that have turned out to have damaged the American economy that are contributing to his slide in the polls. Americans don't want any more of the economic policies championed by McCain, and they are concerned that he doesn't know anything about economics, as he himself has admitted on many occasions. Quote:
i speculated that it was one scenario. you seem to want to use it as some sort of evidence that i've been incorrect about something at some point in time, and then use it in whatever current debate you're trying to have with me in order to score points you're unable to at present. but, hey, if the election continues to be about issues and not culture wars and lipstick on pigs, then we might well see this Obama tsunami. either way, the more reality encroaches, the more McCain struggles. |
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The left will stab the right in the back at the first opportunity. If McCain wins he better watch out who he crosses the isle for. Controlling spending is the only way. Not funding wars to balance the budget is basically suicide since the U.S. is the only one that has a chance of checking Russia, Iran, N. Korea, & China. And that is only a maybe. If the world was just a bunch of democracies trading with each other, then a reduction in military would be possible. |
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Of course there's no direct literal association between the two of them, but that wasn't what I meant. Part of McCain's problem with Latino voters is a distrustful sense that he's been cowed by the right wing of his party (of which Limbaugh is a highly visible and controversial symbol) and will no longer stand up for comprehensive immigration reform as he once did. Associating McCain with ugly-sounding comments from Limbaugh is a sensationalistic, string-tugging way of exploiting that fear (which is why I agree that the ad is deceitful). But from what I've read, thus far all the McCain campaign has done by way of response is to have a Latino Congressman surrogate release a tepid-sounding statement that the ad lies about McCain's record on immigration, without addressing either the charge that his positions have changed or the implication that he's comfortable with supporters who enjoy sentiments like "stupid and unqualified Mexicans." Which is pretty much what I expected. That's not to say it might not be a wholly sufficient response for political purposes; but I do think the Obama campaign was intentionally throwing down a gauntlet here, and it's interesting to see how the McCain campaign responds.
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could it be that Americans aren't quite as distracted by bright, shiny governors as McCain thought they were?
Gallup Daily: Obama 48%, McCain 44% |
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Quite an interesting qualifier considering what were the economic news of the past four days.
__________________And interesting as well that it is just the economy that pushes Obama. |
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