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Bad tax cuts. Bad!
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Got this in an email today about McCain's health issues...
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The Obama campaign has responded to that Rove comment:
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I'm shocked that Rove actually said that in public. Granted it was a kind of weak admission. "Doesn't exactly pass the 100% truth test" eh? Most people call that lying, Karl.
File that in the "You know you've gone too far when..." department. |
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Those Rove comments are interesting, perhaps there is truth in the rumour that the Bushies really don't want McCain to win?
On the other side of the fence, there's another little rumour that the Clinton's don't want Obama to win. Clenis was reported the other day as saying that he is doing everything he is asked to do to help the Obama campaign - doesn't that imply that he doesn't really want to help, but is only doing so under duress?? |
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^Obama better get it together. There's not much time left.
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Though I would argue that both have and I'd be curious what his examples of Obama's campaign "going too far" would be? |
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(CNN) –Cindy McCain, wife of Republican presidential nominee John McCain, criticized the media at a weekend fundraiser, telling supporters that the hosts of The View “picked our bones clean.”
"In spite of what you see …in the newspapers, and on shows like The View — I don't know if any of you saw The View yesterday, they picked our bones clean — in spite of what you see, that's not what the American people are saying and what they are believing," said McCain, in a recording obtained by ABC News. "They are now seeing a clear difference with these candidates, and they are seeing who is going to make the best president, and that's why we're pulling ahead." John McCain had a tough exchange with the hosts of The View during a recent appearance, during which he was pressed on the credentials of running mate Sarah Palin, claims in his campaign ads that co-host Joy Behar called “lies,” and how many houses he and his wife own. |
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Funny. "The View" is widely seen to be somewhat of a joke. To admit getting your bones "picked clean" by the ladies on The View....kinda lame. The fact that it happened is lamer still.
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Just caught a few minutes of McCain's rally in Florida this morning.
How can the guy say that he wants less government presence/involvement, and then a few sentences later say that more government regulation is the key to solving America's investment bank crisis? ![]()
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Because they're women, of course. Only men are real journalists.
Frankly, these ladies have proven themselves to be better journalists than our entire "librul media" combined. They finally asked the questions that most of us wanted to hear asked. |
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Definitely true. I was about to say that it might be the manner in which the argue about the topics on the show--Rosie, Whoopi, the crazy blonde girl, essentially "bickering"--is what probably gives it that image.....but then I realized that is essentially related to the fact that they're women. I mean, most of the male-dominated pundit shows consist of a bunch of guys bickering with each other, and yet it's not viewed as negatively. No, I'm glad that they did what they did, and I'm glad that more journalists are starting to do just that--cut through the crap and make them answer real questions. I was amazed this morning to see a journalist on Fox News Channel tear into the main McCain spokesman (I forget his name, but he practically embodies sleazy spin) about the lies in McCain's ads. It was pretty sweet. ![]() As I've said before, 'The Daily Show' needs to be on a major broadcast network and on at 8PM---so that all of America could watch Jon Stewart cut through the crap and point out all the spin and ridiculousness. ![]()
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September 15, 2008 Both Sides Seeking to Be What Women Want By KATE ZERNIKE For evidence of how intensely the presidential candidates are battling over women, consider their investment in Oprah Winfrey. After the news programs, “Oprah” is the chief recipient of campaign advertisements this year, with Senator John McCain buying more commercial spots on the program in the last month than Senator Barack Obama — even though Ms. Winfrey herself is backing Mr. Obama. Mr. Obama, the Democratic presidential nominee, is teaming stars from soap operas and “Sex and the City” with congresswomen in contested states. Mr. McCain, the Republican nominee, is sending tailored mailings on taxes to women who drive minivans, watch “The Biggest Loser” or “Lost” and know their way to the nearest big-box store. And both campaigns are trying to highlight the issues they think will draw more support from women, with Mr. Obama emphasizing pay equity and abortion rights and Mr. McCain playing up his “maverick” image and raising questions of respect. The fierce, and complicated, competition for the female vote has been escalated by Mr. McCain’s selection of Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska as his running mate. Even before the Palin selection, Mr. Obama was moving to shore up support from women, especially those who had supported Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton in the Democratic primaries. Now Obama campaign officials are stepping up their efforts, and both campaigns are recalibrating pitches to women to navigate cultural forces and policy positions that can give them an advantage. In particular, they are competing for working-class white women, the group that could be especially pivotal in the states likely to decide the election. For Mr. Obama, the push for women means emphasizing that he is running against Mr. McCain, not Ms. Palin, and drawing attention to Mr. McCain’s record on issues that particularly resonate with women: his opposition to abortion rights, his votes against expanded health insurance for children and pay equity legislation, and his support for private investment accounts for Social Security, of concern among white women over 50, a group Mr. Obama has had trouble winning over. This week, Obama events have a theme, “Women for the Change We Need,” as the campaign tries to connect with women in conference calls, rallies and registration drives. The campaign will also begin increasing advertising on television programs watched by women — besides “Oprah,” some of the biggest investments for the campaigns have been during “Dr. Phil,” “Live With Regis and Kelly” and “The Ellen DeGeneres Show.” Each campaign is also beginning to put more spots on Lifetime, and a McCain media buyer recently lamented that the Food Network did not accept political advertising. Mr. McCain will continue to campaign this week with Ms. Palin, with a rally on Tuesday in Ohio, an important state for working-class women. The two are expected to be together frequently in the seven remaining weeks of the campaign. Beyond that, the McCain campaign’s strategy is to emphasize personality, capitalizing on the booming celebrity of Ms. Palin, highlighting Mr. McCain’s story as a war hero, showcasing their families, and trying to keep alive the anger about sexism that many women felt during Mr. Obama’s primary campaign against Mrs. Clinton. Democrats have relied heavily on women in recent presidential elections — so much so that McCain strategists say they believe that to win they need to run even among women over all, and lead among white women. Women have voted in greater proportions than men for almost three decades — in 2004, nearly nine million more women voted than men, 67.3 million to 58.5 million. But the hard-fought candidacy of Mrs. Clinton and Mr. McCain’s selection of Ms. Palin as the first woman on a Republican presidential ticket have put new cultural and ideological elements more fully into play. “It’s because there were these women who supported Hillary Clinton, some of whom so visibly said they might not support Obama or might sit it out or vote for John McCain,” said Susan Carroll, a senior scholar at the Center for American Women and Politics at Rutgers who has written extensively on the gender gap in voting. “That really called attention to the fact that women were going to be critically important.” Mr. McCain’s strategists do not expect to win more than a small fraction of Mrs. Clinton’s supporters. But they do see blocs of women they think they can win. Democrats have been accused of taking women for granted, in part because they have been able to count on them: More women have voted Democratic in the last four presidential cycles. More men have voted Republican in all but two of the last nine, the exceptions being 1976, when Jimmy Carter was the Democratic candidate, and 1992, when Bill Clinton was elected. But white women have voted Republican in all but two of the last nine presidential elections. In 1992, they were evenly divided between the first President Bush and Mr. Clinton; in 1996, they voted for Mr. Clinton, 48 percent to 43 percent. And while unmarried women have consistently given their majority to Democrats, married women gave President Bush the majority in 2004. “It’s about how much Democrats can maximize the gender difference and how much the Republicans can hold it down,” Ms. Carroll said. The McCain campaign’s polling identifies two ripe demographics: So-called Wal-Mart women, who shop at the store at least once a week, earn less than $60,000 a year, have less than a college education, and hold a poor impression of Mr. Bush; they tend to call themselves independents and say their economic situation is fair or poor, listing the economy as their prime election issue. McCain strategists believe this group will be attracted by the ticket’s “maverick” image. The second group is women in important suburbs in Florida, Michigan, Missouri, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. The McCain campaign is also on the offensive in trying to stoke anger about perceived sexism. The campaign has designated a squad of prominent Republican women to call out what they see as gender-based smears against Ms. Palin. Last week, it released two spots accusing Mr. Obama of being “disrespectful” toward her. Mr. Obama appears to have a strong advantage among young, unmarried women. But, said Anita Dunn, a senior adviser: “We are not ceding women with children. We have a candidate whose wife is a working mom with two young children.” In part, the Obama campaign is emphasizing the Republican ticket’s opposition to abortion rights. The campaign ran a radio advertisement during the Republican convention calling the party’s platform on abortion “extreme” because it did not include an exception for rape or incest. But that issue alone may not swing many women. In a Gallup poll in May, 14 percent of women said that a candidate for major office must share their view on abortion (about the same percentage as among men). For half the women in the poll, abortion was one issue among many affecting their decision. The Obama campaign is also emphasizing Mr. McCain’s opposition to pay equity legislation, with a television spot that began running on Sunday saying that he “just doesn’t get it.” The Obama campaign’s focus on women this week will start with a conference call Wednesday between 20,000 women in leadership positions nationwide and Mr. Obama’s running mate, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, who the campaign believes commands respect among women, particularly because of his advocacy for laws against domestic violence. Mr. Biden and Mr. Obama will then hold rallies with women Thursday and Friday, setting up a weekend of voter registration, beauty shop canvassing and mobilizing events. To secure working-class women, the campaign sees Mrs. Clinton as its best surrogate, and has sent her to Florida, Nevada and Ohio, states she won in the primaries. In recent days, female aides and surrogates to Mr. Obama have also begun arguing in television appearances that Mr. McCain has a history of insensitivity toward women — recalling a joke he made about Chelsea Clinton’s appearance when she was a teenager, or his going along at a South Carolina event last year when a woman used a coarse term to refer to Mrs. Clinton. (Mr. McCain now frequently lauds Mrs. Clinton.) Though there is little question that Ms. Palin’s bursting onto the scene has put pressure on the Obama campaign, it is unclear how much difference she will make. Geraldine A. Ferraro created a small bounce in the polls when Walter F. Mondale chose her as his running mate in 1984, making her the first woman on a major party ticket. But in the end, the nation went in a landslide for President Ronald Reagan. “Ultimately in that election,” Ms. Carroll said, “people voted the top of the ticket.” |
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looks like we know how Alan Greenspan is voting:
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it doesn't matter, sarah can kick greenspan's rump.
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Has anyone seen these yet?
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