US 08 Presidential Campaign General Discussion Thread #8

[anitram]

When did Reagan begin showing signs of AD?

Something a lot of people don't want to talk about.

[BVS]

Originally Posted by 2861U2

^ True, but from a cold/pneumonia. Not really age-related.

You're kidding right?

[financeguy]

Originally Posted by anitram

When did Reagan begin showing signs of AD?

Something a lot of people don't want to talk about.

There's no way Reagan had AID's.

[anitram]

Originally Posted by financeguy

There's no way Reagan had AID's.

What?

[financeguy]

Originally Posted by anitram

What?

Reagan didn't have AID's. I know he used to hang around with Rock Hudson, but I doubt if they copulated.

[anitram]

AID's?

I was talking about AD - Alzheimer's Disease.

[financeguy]

Ah, I see.

But surely this Alzheimer's meant to click in around the late 1980's, according to left-wing opinion-formers, was it not?

I seem to remember him making some remarkably good decisions around that period. I seem to remember disarmament treaties being signed, and Eastern Europe being freed, that kind of stuff.

[anitram]

It is widely reported that he probably suffered from mild symptoms of it.

People can live with AD for 20+ years - good decision making doesn't mean that you are not suffering from the beginning stages of the disease.

I lived with somebody who had AD for about 7-8 years and I think that the perception of how the disease progresses is almost always incorrect as compared to the real thing.

[Strongbow]

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[2861U2]

Originally Posted by BonoVoxSupastar

McCain's original comments weren't I can't use a computer, or I can't type, it was I don't know HOW TO send an email, or something to that effect.

True, but it's fair to say that he doesn't know how to because he isn't able to. He's never had a chance to learn because he doesn't really have a reason to learn.

Originally Posted by BonoVoxSupastar

So if he can't type, or write or any other small task hand motor skills, how the hell does he get anything done? Can he sign his own bills? So he has assistants, that's fine, he's never overseen them send out an email? Seems like it would be pretty easy for foul ups if he isn't over seeing his own words sent out. Does he run his office by smoke signals?

I know he can write. There must just be some distinction in being able to write versus being able to type. It's not something to disqualify him. I'm sure if he's president, he'll be able to do his job.

[2861U2]

Originally Posted by BonoVoxSupastar

You're kidding right?

How do you think he died?

[anitram]

Has he actually said that he can't use a keyboard? Or is this a report by a third party?

Because I remember specifically that a few weeks after he said he'd never sent an e-mail, he said that he was learning how to use the Internet or some such. Which then strikes me as odd if he can't utilize a keyboard?

[anitram]

"I am learning to get online myself, and I will have that down fairly soon, getting on myself," McCain told the New York Times in an interview that appeared Sunday. "I don't expect to be a great communicator, I don’t expect to set up my own blog, but I am becoming computer literate to the point where I can get the information that I need."

That keyboard thing just sounds very fishy to me at this point.

[Diemen]

Originally Posted by 2861U2

How do you think he died?

Whose immune system do you think would be able to better cope with a cold/pneumonia, someone in their mid 40s or someone in their late 60s? (given similar lifestyles and levels of physical fitness for their age)

[BVS]

Originally Posted by 2861U2

How do you think he died?

How many healthy people do you know that die of "cold/pneumonia"?

[Utoo]

Originally Posted by Strongbow

In addition, those "real age charts" have shown McCains real age to be about 57.

What "real age charts?"

Are you talking about his Wii Fit Age?

[Utoo]

Originally Posted by BonoVoxSupastar

Anyone who thinks his past doesn't affect his physical health and mental health are fooling themselves.

Emphasis added on the mental health bit. My uncle is a Vietnam Vet & a staunch Louisiana Republican who's not voting for McCain. "No one would be right in the head after living in a box for that long" is what he says.


McCain's biggest political ploy also his political handicap?

[anitram]

You know, if they want to put an end to the "John McCain is a liar" meme, maybe they better stop lying...

Sept. 13 (Bloomberg) -- Senator John McCain has drawn some of the biggest crowds of his presidential campaign since adding Alaska Governor Sarah Palin to his ticket on Aug. 29. Now officials say they can't substantiate the figures McCain's aides are claiming.

In recent days, journalists attending the rallies have been raising questions about the crowd estimates with the campaign. In a story on Sept. 11 about Palin's attraction for some Virginia women voters, Washington Post reporter Marc Fisher estimated the crowd to be 8,000, not the 23,000 cited by the campaign.

...

Until Palin, 44, joined him on the campaign trail, McCain, 72, had limited his political events to smaller town hall meetings and rallies of a few hundred people. His Democratic rival, Barack Obama, an Illinois senator, routinely draws thousands of people to his speeches, a phenomenon McCain has tried to use to his advantage by labeling Obama, 47, a celebrity.

That changed on Aug. 30, at Palin's first big public appearance after her nomination. The McCain campaign said 10,000 people showed up at the Consol Energy Arena in Washington, Pennsylvania, home of the Washington Wild Things baseball team.

The campaign attributed that estimate, and several that followed, to U.S. Secret Service figures, based on the number of people who passed through magnetometers.

``We didn't provide any numbers to the campaign,'' said Malcolm Wiley, a spokesman for the U.S. Secret Service.

Grim.

Bloomberg.com: Politics

[Diemen]

It's so ridiculous. Prior to the Palin pick, McCain was picking on Obama for being a celebrity. Now that he has Palin, he's practically screaming "look! I've got a celebrity, too! Vote McCain!" Except she's apparently not as popular as they're hyping her to be.

Maybe she can guest star on Kathy Griffin's show.

[BVS]

Anybody see McCain on The View? I watched pieces of it on youtube...

Why the hell would he agree to go on this show? He looked pathetic. Is he this desperate for the woman vote, or does he not understand women at all...