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National polls are completely meaningless in congressional races! Congress could have a 1% approval rating but locally, most people think it's not THEIR congressman/woman that's the problem. |
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Did you even pay attention to the rest of the rumor? |
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Wow, McCain is now only behind by 2 points in Washington State now based on the new Rasmussen poll there. He was behind in that same poll by 12 points in August! If this trend continues, Washington State could be a toss up state. Thats 11 Electoral votes that the Democrats cannot afford to lose.
No new polls yet for Oregon which is a more conservative state than Washington. RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - Washington: McCain vs. Obama |
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the second you denounce the sleaze and outright lies of the McCain campaign, then we'll talk about this personal but truthful ad. |
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By 1952, only 37% of Americans thought that US military intervention in Korea was NOT a mistake. Notice though that the majority of Americans today think that the military intervention in Korea was indeed necessary and continue to support the United States defense committment to South Korea. |
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Was Joe Biden "Lying" when he said the following things?
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sorry, that's too simplistic. Truman's war-related unpopularity was due to his removal of MacArthur from command of the Korean War due to MacArthur's absolutely insane idea of invading the North and being excited about nuking China. Truman rightly sacked the great WW2 hero, and rightly so, and at a cost to his popularity. there was also rapid inflation at the time and his desegregation of the armed forces caused him much antipathy from racist Southern Democrats. there was also a huge IRS scandal leading to the firing of 250 employees. so while it's easy to say "Iraq has made GWB unpopular just like the Korean War made HST unpopular; therefore, GWB will be vindicated by history just like HST," it's also totally fatuous to say so. |
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why don't you ask Joe Biden? in the meantime, we'll continue to focus on the actual lies coming out of the McCain campaign -- Obama wants to teach sex to 5 year olds, he'll raise your taxes if you earn more than $42K, Palin was against the Bridge to Nowhere -- that are on actual issues. enjoy your sideshow! |
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"When it mattered, Gov. Palin stood up to Sen. Stevens and dealt the Bridge to Nowhere its death blow. This is something the U.S. Congress and senators Obama and Biden failed to do on multiple occasions. And while it’s true that John McCain, unlike his running mate, has always opposed pork-barrel earmarks, Sarah Palin, unlike Obama and Biden, did the right thing when it counted most and stopped an egregious example of earmark abuse. And now, of course, Palin has joined McCain in calling for an end to earmarks. Isn’t it better to come around to the right position than to keep on being wrong?" <> |
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Oh and lets take a look at the inflation rate during that time: 1950 1.09% 1951 7.88% 1952 2.29% 1953 0.82% Yes, 1951 you have a bit of a spike in inflation(nothing compared to the Carter Years), but the other years have historically very low rates of inflation. This definitely did not have anywhere near the impact that the Korean war did on Trumans popularity. Ike was elected on a platform to end the war in Korea in 1952, not to reduce inflation or end desegregation. The Gallup polls show Truman's popularity heading south in relation to events in the Korean war. The Gallup poll also shows that most Americans thought the Korean war was a mistake in 1952, and naturally Truman got the blame for the war. |
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and, naturally, there are a whole host of political issues that go into a presidential approval rating. the sinking of New Orleans had much to do with Bush's abysmal ratings as does the disaster in Iraq. likewise, the relative unpopularity of the stalemate of the Korean War had something to do with Truman's unpopularity, but it was also Truman's handling of the Korean War and his sacking of MacArthur that contributed to his 22%, as well as inflation and IRS scandals.
so, again, saying that Harry Truman is a hero because he suffered for prosecuting an unpopular war doesn't in any way create a parallel to GWB, it doesn't redeem the war from being at the very least horribly mismanaged and at worst another mistake that's lead to the situation with NoKo and 50+ years of troops stationed in Korea. in fact, what actually was courageous about Truman was the sacking of MacArthur. would that GWB had sacked Rumsfeld ... |
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Truman's peak unpopularity, 22% was achieved in January of 1952. look at the 1951 inflation rate. |
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I've yet to hear how this is incorrect. I've read part of the bill. It talks about the different body parts, their names, how people have parts that "feel good when touched," and that there are gay people that attracted to people of the same sex. He wants to teach this to very, very young children. That's a fact. I don't see a lie.
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dude, you can go back and read earlier posts on this topic. it's all deemed "age appropriate" and in kindergarten it focuses on what is and what is not appropriate touching. if you want to slam Obama from wanting kids to learn how to protect themselves from sexual predators. is there something wrong with a 5 year old understanding that, yes, sometimes a woman can love a woman or a man can love a man? i once had a four year old tell me this. |
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![]() i remember being so happy that Obama and McCain were going to be the nominees. i thought we'd have a serious discussion on serious issues. guess not. thanks, Rovians! |
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