US 08 Presidential Campaign General Discussion Thread #8 - Page 28

anitram · 09-10-2008, 05:20 PM

Why is the McCain campaign running such intensely negative ads if they are so far ahead in the polling?

This is the classic move of somebody trying to catch up.

Oh well, more wolves!!!

diamond · 09-10-2008, 05:20 PM

i was eating a banana.

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MaxFisher · 09-10-2008, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anitram

Why is the McCain campaign running such intensely negative ads if they are so far ahead in the polling?

This is the classic move of somebody trying to catch up.

Oh well, more wolves!!!

what's more telling is the amount of bitching the democrats are engaging in regarding the negative ads. typically whining democrats means winning republicans.

Strongbow · 09-10-2008, 05:27 PM

Rasmussen has new polling data for Alaska, North Dakota and New Mexico.

Alaska

McCain 64%
Obama 33%

North Dakota

McCain 55%
Obama 41%

New Mexico

McCain 49%
Obama 47%

Suddenly it appears New Mexico is back in play. A McCain victory in New Mexico would prevent Obama from winning simply by picking up Colorado and Iowa.

VintagePunk · 09-10-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by anitram

YouTube - Obama Blasts McCain on Lipstickgate: Enough of the lies and distractions!

That is beyond awesome.

Sadly, I wonder if it's a problem for him that he tends not to speak in sound bytes. I wonder if that's all the information that some Americans are capable of processing at one time.

diamond · 09-10-2008, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Diemen

That's a fantastic response.

I also notice a peculiar lack of voices rising in defense of these McCain ads & faux controversies. Perhaps because even his strongest supporters know he went too far? Though I also notice that most aren't quite maverick enough to stand up against them, either.

diemen,

im sooo disappointed in you.
you of all ppl-the prince of nuance, reader between all lines.

it wasn't overt, it was oblique reference and the "candidate of change" is acting like the community activist rebel rouser that he is.
So much for substance.

by referring to mccain as stinky old fish wrapped a newspaper and he and joe w a calculated attack on palin,(both using the word lipstick w/in a few days) the dem ticket is taking on water. It's apparent it was planned talking point, and it's backfiring.-but go ahead ignore me now, find me later.

perhaps joe will have to get "sick" and O will beg Hil to save the ticket, and we'll all just say No to Hil and O.

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MaxFisher · 09-10-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by VintagePunk

That is beyond awesome.

Sadly, I wonder if it's a problem for him that he tends not to speak in sound bytes. I wonder if that's all the information that some Americans are capable of processing at one time.

The "pig" statement may or not have been intentional (gauging by the audience's uprorious laughter, they either thought Obama was referring to Palin or they find the image of a pig with lipstick hilarious). As a McCain supporter, I do think there was too much made of it.

That said, this will be forgotten by tomorrow and the media will focus on the Palin-Gibson interview.

BVS · 09-10-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxFisher

what's more telling is the amount of bitching the democrats are engaging in regarding the negative ads. typically whining democrats means winning republicans.

And the "moral" party is once again fine with throwing out integrity... How are you all fine with a platform of hypocricy? I'll never understand it.

Strongbow · 09-10-2008, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diemen

That's a fantastic response.

I also notice a peculiar lack of voices rising in defense of these McCain ads & faux controversies. Perhaps because even his strongest supporters know he went too far? Though I also notice that most aren't quite maverick enough to stand up against them, either.

Its funny to see the Democrats choose to remain mired in the pigs, lies, and lipstick debate.

MaxFisher · 09-10-2008, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BonoVoxSupastar

And the "moral" party is once again fine with throwing out integrity... How are you all fine with a platform of hypocricy? I'll never understand it.

I don't consider Obama's negative ads against McCain to be immoral.

phillyfan26 · 09-10-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by yolland

He's always typed a lot of his posts in shorthand, so what.

I hadn't recalled him doing so, I just thought it an odd change of pace.

phillyfan26 · 09-10-2008, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongbow

Its funny to see the Democrats choose to remain mired in the pigs, lies, and lipstick debate.

Isn't it kind of relevant that a person running a campaign strongly based on his character is suddenly doing things that lack integrity?

Lila64 · 09-10-2008, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anitram

YouTube - Obama Blasts McCain on Lipstickgate: Enough of the lies and distractions!

Lila64 · 09-10-2008, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonoVoxSupastar

And the "moral" party is once again fine with throwing out integrity... How are you all fine with a platform of hypocricy? I'll never understand it.

QFT

phillyfan26 · 09-10-2008, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxFisher

what's more telling is the amount of bitching the democrats are engaging in regarding the negative ads. typically whining democrats means winning republicans.

If you watched four nights of the RNC and endured the repetition of discussion on how McCain has tons and tons of character, it's a big deal that he's suddenly turned on that image of integrity by literally perpetuating lies.

kellyahern · 09-10-2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongbow

Its funny to see the Democrats choose to remain mired in the pigs, lies, and lipstick debate.

It's funny to see the McCain campaign even make this an issue in the first place and create misleading ads about it.

Well, "funny" isn't really the word I'm looking for.

diamond · 09-10-2008, 06:49 PM

Here's an interesting link depicting how the majority of Americans think.
It's based on book sales state by state.

Clearly it shows as the election nears- that the majority of Americans lean right:

Election 2008

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officeman120 · 09-10-2008, 07:33 PM

Barack Obama slams the McCain camp for creating lies and distractions from the real issues, stating that, "The American people deserve a serious debate."

News and video

U2Fanatic4ever · 09-10-2008, 07:48 PM

well that source says it all.. convinced me that i better go red...........

i mean seriously...

Se7en · 09-10-2008, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diamond

Here's an interesting link depicting how the majority of Americans think.
It's based on book sales state by state.

Clearly it shows as the election nears- that the majority of Americans lean right:

Election 2008

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jesus h. christ that is frightening.

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09-10-2008, 05:27 PM	#544
Strongbow Refugee Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,943 Local Time: 06:41 PM	Rasmussen has new polling data for Alaska, North Dakota and New Mexico. Alaska McCain 64% Obama 33% North Dakota McCain 55% Obama 41% New Mexico McCain 49% Obama 47% Suddenly it appears New Mexico is back in play. A McCain victory in New Mexico would prevent Obama from winning simply by picking up Colorado and Iowa.

09-10-2008, 06:49 PM	#557
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 11:41 AM	Here's an interesting link depicting how the majority of Americans think. It's based on book sales state by state. Clearly it shows as the election nears- that the majority of Americans lean right: Election 2008 <>

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U2Fanatic4ever Blue Crack Addict Join Date: May 2001 Location: nowhere..........man Posts: 20,254 Local Time: 02:41 PM	well that source says it all.. convinced me that i better go red........... i mean seriously...