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what's happening, to me at least, is this.
__________________if you go back and read the RNC thread, i thought i respected McCain a great deal. i disagreed with him, obviously, but that speech reminded us who it was he once appeared to be. i hoped that despite the rank political expediency of the Palin pick we might again see the John McCain of 2000 back in our midst. now, with this lipstick/pig lie, and the sex ed lie, it's apparently clear that John McCain doesn't even meet the basic threshold of integrity to hold public office, let alone the presidency. the people putting out these ads, and McCain himself, know that they are lying to the American public. and you know what? they're betting that you're too stupid to know better or too lazy to care. these ads demonstrate what McCain thinks of you, his supporters. you need a better candidate. one who doesn't play you for fools and idiots. |
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#503 |
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show me any Obama ad that has the same level of dishonesty as the two ads released by McCain yesterday. ask better of your candidate. he is degrading you as a supporter. hell, even George HW Bush didn't put his name on the racist Willie Horton ad. |
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If Obama released an ad about McCain's "___" and you thought it to be a misrepresentation, McCain supporters would be the first in here to bitch and moan about how evil Obama and his campaign are. |
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i still don't think there's any equivocation to be made between the utterly false McCain ads on the "lipstick/pig" lie or the "comprehensive sex ed" lie. McCain has disgraced himself and his campaign. he'll say and do anything to win. he thinks voters are stupid and he continuously insults his supporters. |
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sorry, your bias prevents you from looking at this episode objectively the sex ed ad ?? I am re-evaluating my opinion, after a little more investigating I can safely say, I am not 100% comfortable with it I may have a little time tonight to post more I will have a busy day today I will be moderating a televised debate between five candidates for local office. |
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thank goodness we have you to see clearly for us, because you've never assumed the worst about Obama and pronounced that the sky was falling. if you look at the full quote in context, you'll know it has nothing to do with Gov. Palin. it is your bias that assumes the worst about this particular candidate and wishes for every slander, lie, and falsehood to be true so that you can feel some sort of vindication that HRC was the better candidate. that is bias. Quote:
good luck. i hope you get a good debate that focuses on issues and not personal narratives. |
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I have very little respect left for McCain.
I don't think he is a stupid man, so that leaves him as a liar. The mainstream media is pretty much saying so today too - so much for fringe leftist bloggers. |
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Obama is tanking.
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If a lie is told on the news, the truth will only be discovered by those who do the research themselves. You can't expect even 10% of American voters to look up the facts. Maybe the independents who have yet to swing one way or the other, or the political diehards who will look up everything anyway. You have to deal what you're given. I guarantee I'm going to get an "Obama hates women" or even "Obama hates pigs... cause he's a MUSLIM!" email forward sometime this week. The other side will use it as fodder to convince the undecided and anger the supporter. I can't tell you how many times I've had to reply to these emails with the quotes put into context to disprove the original "point." |
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^ hence, John McCain has just failed a test of basic integrity.
i don't believe he is fit to be president. |
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Ouch.
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But 90% of Americans won't care about this. The only people these ads can affect at this point are the independents. The right is going to vote for him anyway, regardless of what he says or does. Same with Obama and the liberals. There's no point in you saying you've lost your respect for him, or think he's fit to be president because you wouldn't vote for him regardless! Unless you plan on campaigning for Obama and can use this argument to sway others. ![]() I think everyone in FYM has already decided who they are voting for anyway, which makes the debate more about fun than facts. Maybe this is where deep is coming from? ![]() I guess my point is that most people are stupid, but that would be just stating the obvious. |
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Meanwhile librul Business Week published this librul lie:
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As an aside: Am I remembering this wrong or did John McCain say that there would not be negative attack ads coming from him? Or maybe it was something about negative attack ads not working. Someone around here might have the quote handy...
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Another day, another ridiculous ad.
What's with the Republican obsession with wolves? If Obama is the big bad wolf, does that make Palin one of the three little pigs? |
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i don't like posting the blog posts of others, but since this post has been linked to by several blogs, i'm going to post it here because it so perfectly puts what's happened since Palin in perspective. and this comes from gay catholic Tory and former neocon Bush-endorsing-in-2000 McCain fan Andrew Sullivan: Quote:
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