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NY Gov. Patterson is now claiming the McCain campaign of using racism because "community organizer" is supposedly interchangeable with the word "black."
__________________![]() I know he's not a part of the Obama campaign, but they're having a really bad few days. I think the wheels are coming off the bus. I sense desperation, and they have yet to figure out how to go after Palin. |
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Do you approve of McCain's scurrilous ad?
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John McCain releases that ad, and we're talking about Obama using a joking reference to McCain's own words to convey a point? Really?
This is honestly the first time during this campaign I've lost respect for McCain. A lot of respect, at that. |
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Honestly, I think McCain's ad shows a huge amount of desperation. |
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It is a very poor ad that they should pull ASAP.
I did read some of the legislation he signed. There was a discussion in one of these threads about teaching abstinence in schools. It was referred to as backwards thinking, however it is part of the legislation that Obama signed. All public elementary, junior high, and senior high 20 school classes that teach sex education and discuss sexual 21 activity or behavior intercourse shall emphasize that 22 abstinence is an effective method of preventing unintended is 23 the expected norm in that abstinence from sexual intercourse 24 is the only protection that is 100% effective against 25 unwanted teenage pregnancy, sexually transmitted diseases, 26 and HIV acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS) when 27 transmitted sexually. |
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The details of that legislation (the part about sex ed):
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Is your information correct? is that the language from the bill that Obama got passed? Obama has said it was a bill to inform kindergardeners about sexual abuse so they would be protected? Why would anyone be against that? ![]() Did it receive an unanimous vote when it passed? |
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I never said abstinence along with comprehensive sexual education was backwards thinking, in fact I think we agreed on that. Don't put words in my mouth. The question was would this type of sex ed fall into Palin's definition of "explicit"? From everything I've read regarding Christian Conservative views of education this would in fact fall under "explicit".
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The actual wording of the age-appropriate sex ed provision:
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Wording of the sexual abuse provision:
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Obama exactly correctly explained these provisions. John McCain lied. Period. |
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well, metioning the word "lipstick" is fair game, after all sarah brought it up at the convention. post gop convention biden used it first, now obama-i think they were advised to-obama in a meaner way than joe. at the end of the day, these guys look like they are picking on a woman, and that is not smart-plus they're losing. if this behavior continues in a few more days they'll be putting on lipstick on their train wreck of a campaign as they continue to slide in the polls. <> |
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We're in the wake of a convention bump, it would be pre-mature to start predicting the coming off of wheels, especially based on this. |
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I would clearly say schools should teach sex ed in a way that conveys the message "Sex at a young age is absolutely not necessary, and no contraceptive is as safe as not doing it at all." |
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Yes it is correct. He is a link to the info. Regarding sex ed....it does say K-12, so according to the legislation, they could teach sex ed to kids in Kindergarten. Not that the ad was really fair but it does bring up a good point. I also dont agree with the language of K-12 for sex ed. It should have been age appropriate. If you look at the link, it appears that the bill originally had it as 6 -12 but it was changed to K. That makes even less sense. Each class or course in comprehensive sex 14 education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall 15 include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted 16 infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread 17 of HIV AIDS. Nothing in this Section prohibits instruction in 18 sanitation, hygiene or traditional courses in biology. Illinois General Assembly - Full Text of SB0099 |
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This is seriously maddening. I give up. Section 27-9.2(a) Quote:
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I have a son in Kindergarten and another in 1st grade. There is NO sex Education, IMO, as defined in the paragraph listed that is age appropriate for either of my boys. HIV? Alcohol? Drug Use? I know is says, "age appropriate" but I think that this is something that should have been very specific in the ages where this is to be taught and it should be a hell of a lot older that a 5 year old child in Kindergarten.
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