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Not really any different for Tim Kaine or Governor Clinton prior to him running for President.
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except that it is. |
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Don't look now Boo boo but McCain has opened up a 15 point lead among Independents:
McCain Now Winning Majority of Independents <> |
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How about, given that:
1.Sting feels that the fact that Obama didn't pick Kaine is irrelevant and that just the consideration of Kaine merits discussion. 2.Everyone else feels that the fact that Obama DID NOT pick Kaine illustrates that Obama judged Kaine to not be the best pick for VP and therefore any other discussion of Kaine's qualifications or preparedness to be VP are irrelevant. we all just agree that no common ground is going to be found on this topic. Because we're just going in circles right now. "Obama didn't pick Kaine, so it doesn't matter!" "But Kaine was a finalist, so it does matter!" "But Obama didn't pick Kaine, so it doesn't matter!" "But Kaine was a finalist, so it does matter!" That's basically what's being said here. ![]() |
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what's interesting is that the structure of this "discussion" as you've outlined above continues to repeat itself on other topics. |
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It's all irrelevant. The VP picks are Palin and Biden. Any discussion of anyone other than these 2 is a waste of time. Any speculation about the ones who were not chose is just that...speculation. That type of analysis can be saved for after the election when we are discussing why Obama lost by not picking Clinton...
just kidding. I could resist. ![]() Kaine is not the choice so any discussion about him and his experience does not matter. Its Biden's strengths and weaknesses that are effecting the Obama ticket. |
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And Biden's strengths are effecting the Obama ticket in a very positive way. Understand this: The ONLY thing that might stop Biden from absolutely eviscerating Palin in the VP debate is the fear of right-wing media saying that Biden was too rough with her, bullied her, whatever. He won't bully her at all, he's much to classy a man for that - but the media will report it that way anyway if he so much as raises his voice to make a point. Imo, the Democratic ticket has two people with whom I would feel 100% comfortable being president, while the Republican ticket is struggling to have one. I realize your opinion is and will be 100% the opposite. |
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Not 100% opposite, but maybe a bit more open minded I think you are giving a lot of credit to Biden who was not very strong in the debates for the Democratic nomination. To say "ONLY thing" is having a pretty narrow view. She many not have a background in the Washington political machine but she's not a complete idiot. They both have challenges in how they will come across to Americans regardless of WHAT they say. What they say is most important but if either comes across as an a-hole or mean or ???, what they say might not get heard. It will be a fun debate to watch. |
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And he was a good pick because no one said. WTF ![]() Hillary would have put the whole contest safely in Obama's column. If Obama wins, and he should, the Obama pick will bo down as a good one. If Obama loses we will always hear that if Hillary had been the nominee, thay would have won. |
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Barack Obama will be appearing on The Late Show with David Letterman on Wednesday, 9/10/08.
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Wow, an impressive bounce with the independents for McCain from the convention.
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McCain has 46% of the female vote, 52% of the male vote, and over 50% of the vote of all age groups except 18 to 29. |
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In fact, at a time when the media couldn't stop themselves from ignoring the other 6 or 7 people on stage who's names weren't Obama, Clinton or Edwards, nearly every pundit I heard on cable news, from FOX to MSNBC said Biden was excellent in each debate. Did that translate into votes? Of course not. I don't blame you for not knowing how well he did, you, like most Americans probably didn't even watch. |
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That said, I stick by my assessment that how they come across to the American people will be as important as what they say. Case in point from the past. Kennedy v. Nixon. People watching the debate said Kennedy won. He was confident, good-looking, etc. Nixon was sweating and lacking the Kennedy swagger. For those listen in radio, it was a landslide win for Nixon. Again, I'm looking forward to watching this one |
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If they are going to be sending Meghan McCain out to do interviews, at least feed her some inoffensive statements. Instead she today asserted that "No one knows what war is like other than my family. Period."
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