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Don't over think it. It is only business did you see the ratings? they were at the very bottom. I am sure with this change their ratings will improve. |
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The Republicans won Florida by 400,000 votes in 2004 and polling has shown McCain ahead for most of the year there. The Republicans won Virginia by nearly 300,000 votes in 2004. This year polling has been close with McCain only ahead sometimes by a very small margin. But with McCain being the only veteran in the race and Virginia home to the largest percentage of veterans in the country, the Obama/Biden team having not military experience of any kind, and the fact that the Republicans have not lost Virginia since 1964, I think McCain will win this state. The Republicans only won Ohio by 120,000 votes in 2004. Polls this year are very close. The Republicans won Colorado by 100,000 votes in 2004. Earlier this year it appeared the Democrats had a lock on Colorado. But then McCain started to do well in the polls there coming out ahead in several of them. There has yet to be any post convention polls posted from this state. While Obama and the Democrats will get a boost from having the convention there, I think Sarah Palin will help McCain a lot in Colorado. The Republicans only won Nevada by 20,000 votes in 2004. Polls have been close this year, but have trended in McCain's direction. If McCain/Palin win the above 5 states all of which went for Bush in 2004, they will win the election. Its unlikely Obama/Biden will be able to win if they lose any of the Blue states from 2004. The Republicans come out of the two back to back conventions with the media discussing Sarah Palin all day, and Barack Obama's Mile High Stadium show seems like a distant memory. At this point, McCain is definitely in a better position than he was before the conventions. Despite nearly everything being stacked against a Republican victory in 2008, 58 days out, the polls still show that McCain could still win on November 4. |
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I'd prefer to see Brokaw, but oh well.
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My gut says that Obama will keep all of Kerry's states. Really NH is the only iffy one (I don't believe Michigan or Pennsylvania are going to be lost) but Bob Barr just got on the ballot there and he'll siphon enough independent libertarian votes in that state to hurt McCain. That's 252. Iowa is obviously an Obama pick up. +7 New Mexico is another pick up, there's a comfortable lead in the polls and there is Bill Richardson who will park his ass in the state for 2 months. +5 That gives Obama 264. My gut says that Colorado will go for Obama. That alone wins him the election. I feel like Florida and Nevada will go to McCain, Virginia to Obama and Ohio depends on whether I show up with my fuel efficient vehicle. ![]() |
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But if McCain takes New Hampshire, and keeps Ohio, Virginia, Florida, and Nevada with the Democrats picking Colorado, New Mexico and Iowa, then we have the 269 to 269 tie senerio where the new incoming congress must vote to decide the election. But victory in that process is still based on the electoral college with each states representitives acting as the voters. So even though the Democrats have a majority and will likely have a majority in the new congress, having to many representives in Blue states, could mean the Republicans could still come out on top despite the fact that they are not the majority in congress. |
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I'm just wondering, does anyone here actually volunteer for either of the campaigns on a consistent basis?
Just curious. I want to know how active FYMers are beyond this message board...which is why I've barely been posting during the election and won't be posting much through Nov. 4 (I'm an intern). |
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And I don't think that Palin is a magic bullet among women that they are hoping she is. Will she pick up some women? Sure. Enough women to make a tangible difference given how far behind he is with that voting bloc? No. If Palin didn't have extreme views on birth control, abortion (even in cases of rape & incest) and creationism, she'd pick up way more women because she is not inherently unlikeable. But these are really really bad positions to have when you are seeking MODERATES. How many moderates do you know who believe we shouldn't have the birth control pill available and that their daughters should give birth to rapists' babies? Palin is way right on these issues. |
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Interesting comments from Biden today
Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., the Democratic nominee for vice president, departed Sunday from party doctrine on abortion rights, declaring that as a Catholic, he believes life begins at conception. While Mr. Biden’s views may not be new to Democrats in his circle, his comments, in an interview on “Meet the Press” on NBC, came at a time when his party is confronted with a new face: Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee, whose anti-abortion stance and decision to give birth just five months ago to a baby with Down syndrome have revved up the conservative base of her party. In the interview Sunday, Mr. Biden tried to walk the line between the staunch abortion-rights advocates in his party and his own religious beliefs. While he said he did not often talk about his faith, he said of those who disagree with him: “They believe in their faith and they believe in human life, and they have differing views as to when life — I’m prepared as a matter of faith to accept that life begins at the moment of conception.” |
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Convenient that you didn't post the part immediately after that where he said, "but I am NOT prepared to force my belief, a religiously-based relief, on to everyone." (something like that).
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so is he now pro life? what's his voting record? <> |
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so, at the very least, you are admitting to the fact that she is a purely political pick and her pick had absolutely nothing to do with her ability to run the country in the event McCain becomes incapable of performing his duties? in essence, she is a gimmick. |
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Read my above post. TheEdge U2JT didn't post the whole quote. He went on to say that he is NOT prepared to force his religiously-based belief on anyone else AKA he is in favor of abortion being legal. |
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I only posted what I saw online. If there was more, I did not see it. I was not trying to be deceptive. I was impressed that he was able to be honest about his view on this and not avoid the question.
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Here's one gal votin' for Joe! |
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Make that two ![]() Remember I supported him during the primary. He was my #1 choice, put I wouldn't but Obama as far back as #2, because I knew realistically Biden had no chance. I always knew I wanted a ticket with Obama and Biden, I just didn't know who was going to be on top. |
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It's possible for people to be personally anti-abortion, but to respect and uphold the rights of others to choose for themselves. It doesn't have to be an either - or prospect.
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